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  1. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    When you say "her parents", didn't someone already correct you that it was one of her grandparents? It doesn't really come across as you actually knowing what you're talking about, so much as just spewing ignorant hate. 🙄 <-My surprised face
  2. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Undoubtedly that's true. Because that's appropriately punishing someone for thinking the wrong thing. 😉 That's not what @The Immortal Watch Dog suggested though, and certainly no evidence has been given that your description would apply in this case.
  3. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    I haven't seen a single article discussing the number of acts. There's a lot because it takes a lot to describe a complicated and widespread plot. I believe Trump has been hit with 13 actual charges. That isn't actually a huge number, and easily could have been inflated to several times that if...
  4. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    That's one of 161 acts laid out, that form a comprehensive narrative. Individual acts are not necessarily themselves illegal, or even evidence of wrongdoing. For an exaggerated example, a case could lay out across several acts that a group had conspired to kill someone, and the choice of if/when...
  5. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    No.
  6. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Nope, I was just an idiot in my haste. That should have been targeted at @Allanon. My apologies for misrepresenting you, and I'll fix the original post.
  7. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    As Bintanath said, that's a nothing burger that makes for an emotive headline to feed the narrative of a combative and emotional election. I mean, it was anyway, but throwing logs on the fire always gets more clicks, views, copies sold, etc. than cold and dispassionate reporting and they choose...
  8. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    I assume you'd use the same magic to retroactively adjust every mention of numbers from before the election?
  9. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    A quick search shows 8,661,735 votes cast, vs 12.3 million active enrolled voters. Perhaps you could share the proof you're talking about?
  10. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    My understanding still doesn't match yours, but for myself I don't think further discussion is likely to be productive. I do appreciate that sentiment though, and that you've argued intelligently, clearly and reasonably.
  11. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Except, those later rulings were all on cases charged under sections 1341, 1343 & 1346. Fraud in those cases is legally and clearly distinct from defraud as it's laid out in 371. The distinction is clearly laid out in the DoJ CRM...
  12. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    You seem to be missing or ignoring that he's not being charged with wire fraud or mail fraud or similar, where you would be right about the tangible value aspect. That would be under 18 U.S.C. § 1343, or § 1341. (Or, as you alluded to §1346) The way things apply to § 371 is different. As I...
  13. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Actually, the tangible value thing is a commonly held misunderstanding. That applies to wire fraud, or similar fraud. Under 18 U.S.C. § 371 defraud has a more expansive meaning, that can include material loss but can also "include any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or...
  14. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Have you never heard of fraud before? 🤨
  15. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Except, he wasn't the president. Having served as president in the past doesn't give you the right in perpetuity to just call dibbs on government documents, nor the right to lie to and obstruct organs of government. He lied, repeatedly, knowingly and blatantly. He pressured, coerced and...
  16. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    That isn't actually being very specific now, is it? "Perpetrating fraud" how exactly? Which laws were broke, specifically, and by which particular actions? As for the drugs, I can only assume you're talking about the same vaccination trump also pushed/pushes, and that was developed under his...
  17. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Yes, it could be considered a structure, though I'd even consider that debatable since "structure" implies organisation and a degree of control, rather than merely a group moving in the same direction by consensus. It sure as hell doesn't count as monlithic though, unless you're using some...
  18. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    "And yes a monolithic dem structure does exist, but its a loose structure of many independent organizations with their own, similar goals." That's, by definition, not a monolithic structure. That's just the large majority of society being in general agreement with each other, and opposed to what...
  19. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    Funnily enough, the timing also lines up pretty well with what was predicted long ahead of time, and also with the norms expected for the investigation. Also, I don't think any possible outcome would actually stop him from running so if this is a grand plan to stop him it's a pretty poor one...
  20. Megadeath

    Trump Investigations Thread

    That doesn't really make any sense as a response to the post it's purportedly responding too. But, I guess you gotta hit that monthly quota for that particular claim, huh? If we round them all up, how many similar such posts do you think we'd find?
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