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When you find yourself arguing whether basic geometry applies, or if light travels at the speed of light it's time to throw in the towel and let the thread die.

Ok. Can you come up with higher results? Or can you give me specific examples for worse showings, and explain why you're ignoring them?

Yes. Your preferred high ends are noted. I'm holding up one finger for everyone who cares and pointing it directly at you.

This shit is so vague and ridiculously expansive as to be un-debatable. So lo and behold, we don't get a debate. Instead there's a couple people running to their prepared positions, to turtle up in defense of their preferred franchise. A few admirable sally attempts, from people looking to...