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  1. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    No, "get out to vote," makes sense in english "get the vote out" doesn't
  2. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    No, please, for the love of god no
  3. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Nah you always ask @ATP about this kind of stuff
  4. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    No I'm really just saying Putin is a troll, and gave Trump the ability to push back against collusion while smirking about it, not that you shouldn't roll with it (you should.)
  5. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    No that isn't what he said, I watched the video when it came out. He's asked which candidate is better for Russia and he says, "Biden because he's more predictable," and it's pretty clear both from the context of the video, the smirky face Putin makes, the conversation around the time the video...
  6. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    I didn't say it was the best you *could* get, I said it's the best you will get because Biden is the more hawkish of the two candidates. We shall see
  7. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    lmao he did not. I don't know who Putin actually supports deep down but its almost certainly Trump since the two had good relations and Trump wants to prevent any aid to Ukraine. Him saying he prefers Biden was an obvious troll and I hope no one is pretending to actually have believed that. I...
  8. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    I didn't mean populist but the opposite. With the never trumpers and neocons sidelined they've been moving into the dems and this makes the leftist wing even smaller (and it already wasn't a majority.)
  9. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    I doubt this will be the case but he's definitely the last president of the current democratic incarnation. I see no one who could potentially run and appease the current talking heads. Gavin Newsom himself would probably be attacked from the left as another white man and from the right as a...
  10. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Perhaps as a democrat. I could see her being the Trump of that party and completely sidelining the DNC establishment who are out of touch with voters.
  11. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Luckily we now know this is a treasonous threat to democracy.
  12. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    definitely agree. The government was designed a certain way, with only the house really meant to be the democratic wing of the federal government and the further away from your local government the more republican, not democratic, the government is/should be. As soon as we make/made presidents...
  13. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    He literally killed the leader of their revolutionary guard after that, so you're wrong here
  14. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Because he considered all of these things distractions and the real enemy to be China, that's who we need to be strong enough to deter.
  15. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    They are just spewing Trumps propaganda from last week. The people saying this won't even remember not liking DeSantis a year from now once Trumps PR department stops attacking him and starts to heal that divide. Four years from now they'll probably claim they always supported him and it just...
  16. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    You're being pedantic and arguing semantics. He was a founder of it, a member of its first board of directors As governor he was reelected by a huge margin, all governors require a majority so it isn't taking credit its part of our system I can agree with this Regardless of how you feel...
  17. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Hard disagree. He's got a ton of brand recognition as a MAGA republican and potential Trump successor. He founded the freedom caucus and then went on to be the most successful conservative governor in the culture war and he's a veteran. If he had the endorsement of Trump he'd sweep the...
  18. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Almost certainly Haley
  19. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Nothing. It, and basically all of the other listed items, are a cope. Presidents lose elections if the economy has a little downturn yet large swathes of my conservative colleagues find it unimaginable a president (barely) lost an election after a year of lockdowns and an economic collapse...
  20. Poe

    United States US presidential election 2024

    Right but if they remove Trump, R states will begin removing Biden as well and that works both ways.
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