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I think the blame for this lies on the modern anarcho-tyrannical state. Since time immemorial, a woman's safety has been the protection of a male guardian: her father, or other relatives, or her husband. This man had the full right to use all necessary violence to ensure her safety. But under...

Lol no, no, they were not. If you were part of a group of people traveling between towns in India, the thugs would join your party and pretend to be civilized - right up to the point where the group stopped for the night somewhere, and they would strangle you in your sleep or cut your throat...

To quote Adrian Plass: Civilization is a mutual agreement to all pretend that we are not savages. Modernity tends to forget that.

Rights without responsibilities. Power without accountability. Bruce Jenner killing someone in a road accident and getting off completely on the homicide charges by claiming to be a woman.

Nature is fighting back! That's good to know. :cool: Whether this is just random mutation or something more directed, I am very happy to read about this. @Iconoclast

Well, it's a central component of the concept of "evolution by natural selection" - as opposed to some other theory of how "Evolution" was supposed to work. The thing is, "survival of the fittest" can be regarded as a bit of a tautology - what is the definition, after all, of "the fittest"...

And you declare religion a "lie" based on... what? Because you, personally, have chosen not to believe in God, and so you want to believe that no one else does?

Really? Why? Huh? I have tested the theory, and it works.

Sounds like they imagine that men are like women. Ignoring a woman will make her want to get attention from you.

Explain to me how? Is it something about people who would have been aborted growing up to the criminals instead?

Want to unpack this a bit for us? I don't think anyone here wants to live in a "crime ridden society", nor is it obvious why punishing sexual sin would lead to that. If anything, the sort of people who want to enforce Christian sexual morality on society also tend to be very much on the "Tough...

On a matter of gut-level sentiment, I strongly agree with this. It makes total sense. No man should be forced to raise other people's children. Stop. Nor should a woman be forced to carry to term a child as a result of rape. Death penalty for the rapist, of course. And all the "oh but all...

If 85% of the population are eagerly killing their children, then it's the 15% whose opinion really matters, because it will be their children who will be there in the future. Just saying...

Ever tried to have a conversation with newborn? And what's a "foetus" anyway? What stage of development do you have in mind there? All quite true, but also beside the point. The question was about conscription being a violation of the right to bodily autonomy.

If someone is in a coma, does he have any more control over his body than does a newborn baby? It's not. The baby is a distinct organism from the mother - different DNA - every cell is different from the mother's. It's a bit creepy that here you are going beyond when the baby is just a ball...

That there is a waiting list for people who want to adopt children tells us that the supply is unequal to the demand, that all those orphans/etc get adopted pretty quick.

I doubt either side of this particular debate is going to come up with any arguments here that have not been heard over and over again. But I wonder if you would be willing to apply this concept of killing people who "shouldn't have existed" consistently?

Not scary at all. :-)

Is that scary?

Darwin is at work.