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@Batrix2070 If the "modernists" play it smart, they won't let Francis or whoever they put in after him fully "drop the mask" until all of the people whose job it would be to impeach a heretical pope have already been replaced by fellow modernists. Then they will, in merrily Orwellian fashion...

I think I get it. :cool: Roman Catholics will sometimes talk as if the dude in the big hat is The Decider, as if the Pope speaks like a prophet or an oracle, and they must all accept his pronouncements. But in reality, no man rules alone, and the pope can lead only insofar as he is followed...

And when and if he slips up and says the quiet part out aloud, what happens?

This brings us to the question: just how bad does a pope have to be, in order to cease to be one? What I am getting from this is that you, as an ordinary believer, are expected to exercise discernment as to when to believe what your denomination's clergy tell you. They are not to be followed...

That you think your sect's leader openly praying to a pagan goddess would be no big deal... is disturbing. That not just "is the pope Catholic?"... it goes all the way into "is that guy a serious Christian at all?"

I think I see what the problem is here - you are coming in at the tail-end of the discussion, missing the context, and therefore not understanding why we happened to be discussing the topic at all. To read yourself in, I suggest starting at page 2 of this thread. Here's some of the relevant...

And I "love" to see a papal cultist come in and tell us that we just don't understand the teachings of his sect, while tacitly admitting that he himself doesn't either! Each of us is distinct individual with an independent intellect, and that is how it should be. That is how God created us...

There wasn't any doctrinal dispute - they were simply challenging Moses' authority, not accusing of giving teaching that contradicted his previous teaching (which would have been a problem!) And Moses certainly didn't stand there going "but you're got to accept my authority over you because it...

Heh. I've myself made the point about Sedevacantists essentially being a type of Protestant. They are protesting what they see as the RCC going into error. If the RCC really wanted to conciliate with them, surely the proper thing would be to try to convince them that the Vatican II changes like...

Totally. The Roman Catholic version of it anyway. Which they actually don't, but let's keep on topic.. The Sedevacantist position, from what I understand of it, is that the Pope must be a Catholic, or he isn't a real Pope. That someone who is a formal heretic, who denies things traditionally...

If you're talking about the invasion of Canaan under Joshua, they were supposed to exterminate the people they were about to conquer. There's a huge, huge difference between showing kindness to one stranger who visits your land, and a mob of them who move in with the intention of taking over.

Nobody. That's what Sedevacantism means - that the "chair" is empty. That there is no living pope, and has not been since the death of Pius XII. For those old-school, pre-Vatican2 Papists who can see that what the RCC now teaches on certain things they regard as very important completely...

"What, you care more about the state of your own soul than about working to make religious leaders richer? How daaare you!" On the one hand, a person who strongly desires to obey God, and does not trust the leaders of organized religion to give him proper guidance on that, so he studies the...

I'm imagining an FBI guy cowering in a basement, shivering in terror at the thought of those oldschool trad Roman Catholics with their Latin Mass, and those oldschool independent Baptists with their KJV Bibles. So scaaaaary! The conclusion they tend to move towards is Sedevacantism: that the...

What is a Scotsman? Can you be an Igubu tribesman from Nigeria and count as a Scotsman? If you are born a Scotsman, is there some action you could take, some possible transgression, that would revoke your status as a Scot? If you are an Atheist, and then start believing in God and praying to...

Don't confuse "big empire" with "big government". Military leaders who dream of conquest, whose goal is to be the ruler of entire continents, are generally not the sort of people who want to micromanage the lives of all the people in that empire.