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These phrases are basically synonymous. It was already over and done and now you're adding to it.

I wouldn't accept that as axiomatic, no. But I feel I should tell you if we continue this conversation it's going to be deleted or moved by the mods so there isnt much point in either of us continuing at this point.

Always the extremes with you. It doesn't have to attempt to be anything, there is nothing wrong with allowing it to be what it will naturally. It is not a business, it is not a child, if the forum is twenty people or twenty thousand that is entirely fine.

No we dont, it can be, no it doesn't.

It sounds like you're just describing pragmatism.

Like I said, exposure to reality has a profound effect on most people. Most people are not demoralized to the point where they can look at black and call it white, so when they see you argue that white is white, and you show them your enemy saying that black is white, they understand...

This is simply not the case, otherwise no conqueror would ever give speeches. Special Measures style Demoralization is not unilateral, not everyone is completely insulated inside their own ignorance. There are many people who simply do not know the facts about Gun Control, for example, and...

Thinking you have to convince your opponent is forgetting that other people exist besides your opponent. The vast majority of people are simply unfamiliar with the left's apologetics and unarmed with coherent responses to them. Seeing a leftist going down in flames educates them.

Well thats exactly why, yes. Commies are free to come here and get knocked down like bowling pins, but we shouldn't be acting like we're welcoming them here in good faith, they're here to fight and ideally to lose, publicly, so that people can see their ideas fail.

Echo chamber is an empty term. I consider the idea that this place should be some kind of normie forum where we try to draw a spectrum of people in disgusting, there are an almost infinite number of normie forums out there (coincidentally they're all getting conquered by SJWs! wow! I'm sure...

He seethed himself into oblivion before I could get back here and respond to him.

So no one has ever exhibited limited homosexual attraction that then ceases or diminishes?

Are you saying that someone can't, under any circumstances, stop being gay?

Right well already we're talking about different things, we've gone from "Environmentalism" to "The modern environmentalist movement". Then it's very surprising that you'd say this What exactly do you think the relationship is between environmental conservation and hunting?

Do you know much about modern hunting Invictus?

How many american rural conservatives are you familiar with more than in passing?

"I dont mind furries, just the completely unrelated degeneracy that completely coincidentally spreads like wildfire around them"

So then you do care who they decide to fuck because thats linked to them being happy.

And I'm sure that volumes of work have been done in the attempt? Please. Children are encouraged down this path.

One year of debt is better than five.