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A lot of people are slowly hating the Greens, it's true.

Note, in Australia, they jumped onto that train, and a running it so hard Hell itself is asking where the demons chasing them are. I'm not sure there was any meaningful pushback in poiltics. That might be because the third major party in Australia, at 10% of the vote, are the Greens. They're...

I'm more interested in the ways the US (And Australian) Gov gave most of our manufacturing to China, in that category. I say gave, but really, they just made sure we couldn't keep it, not giving a shit where it went. When it comes to supporting enemies, China's got the best deal.

If you're not hard enough, you don't belong in the navy, or for that sake, the army or airforce. People can, and should, be pushed to their limits. After all, combat is pass or fail.

Of course. Until those same "Janissaries" decide that they don't care about said leadership, as will inevitably happen. Vangarian Guard, anybody?

In serious combat, fitness is important. Strength, too. When you have to carry and use 20+ kilos of gear, and might have to run and dive for an extended time? When your fitness could well be the line between life and death? The simple fact is, if you're not fit when you get in, you're not...

That's a really crappy joke. Almost as bad as mine.

Technical fiends, hmm? Well, Uni's were set up for Church stuff, LOL!

That's why they should exist, and sometimes that's what they're covering. But, that's not all they do. And the rest is not nearly so useful.

Yes, but Uni isn't for that. It's for heavy theory stuff. Grunt's should be about the practical, not the theory. That's all I mean on this.

..... That's likely to make them worse at their real job. A grunt needs to be practical first. First, it has to work, or they'll just die. Bad idea, all round.

Sometimes, yes. Most, even. Very different mindsets. One is about "Patterns of the Mind are how the Universe Works (Reality need not apply)" and the other is "Does it work? Ok, it works." The Uni crowd sometimes comes up with genuinely revoutionary improvements, and the Blue Collar crowd can...

So. Not going to dive into the full argument, just going to add to this. The entire Green movement was supported by Soviet and OPEC money, when they got going. The Catholic Church wasn't nearly as bad before the Soviet Union pushed gays and pedos into it, and they were deliberately chosen...

I'll be honest, if you're going to defend a nation, I'll take Taiwan over Ukrane, any day. Taiwan's at least civilised.

That works on Russia, too. But the chances that there are none? Or few enough to matter? No, the whole thing is risky. Getting back to the Thread subject, I'd guess the sorts of places where the military tend towards more rural areas. The political response to East Palestine, where...

You hope. You really, really hope. To some degree, so do I.

Ok, seriously, I'm going to calm down a bit. I don't really see why you think Russia is a big deal, but ok. Ukraine is, to your mind, important enough to put billions into, ok. This is, I think, the most direct conflict between atomic states, and I see Putin getting ever more desperate. And...

Bullshit. Modern? Seriously? Eh, I'm not sure why that matters, but whatever. Now, from what little I can tell, there's no evidence of US troops in Ukraine right now. But the amount of money, tech and other support going to Ukraine while people in the US suffer? Repeat after me. It's not...

That, I disagree with. But, I'll stick to the most basic issue, when we're talking about this Thread. The first thing the US military should be about is protecting the US and it's people. The more the US gets involved with Ukraine, the more likely that goes wrong. This it textbook World...

That's a really bad idea. If you get a military that's full of people with no loyalty to the nation, that's just a merc army. AKA, the Varangian Guard. Who chose many Emperors.