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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    FWIW, in this TL, I suspect that Leonid Kravchuk would win in 1994: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Ukrainian_presidential_election He lost by 7% in real life.
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    When did Ukraine support Germany? In WWII?
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    That future would be in an EU that is gradually become more and more Based. :) Le Pen, Meloni, et cetera. :)
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Here's the percentage of voters opposed to Ukrainian independence in each Ukrainian oblast in December 1991:
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Again, though, then why vote for independence the previous year? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum#:~:text=The%20referendum,-Voters%20were%20asked&text=The%20text%20of%20the%20Declaration,expressed%20overwhelming%20support%20for%20independence
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Are the pro-Soviet and pro-Russian elements of Ukraine's society going to have any plan other than Eurasian integration for avoiding Ukraine's fate? Because, if so, then why exactly did they vote en masse for independence in the previous year?
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    In Ukraine?
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    I'm not sure if anything other than NATO would actually work for this, though.
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Do you think that they would keep their nukes?
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Yep, absolutely. And having the US welcome Ukraine into NATO would be somewhat easier in this TL since Ukraine might very well be led by someone like Rukh rather than by corrupt Sovoks.
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    I think that Ukrainians will also be begging Yeltsin not to appoint Putin as his successor, though I doubt that they would actually be successful in this regard. And FWIW, Ukrainians overwhelmingly voted to leave the Soviet Union in 1991, though this did not necessarily preclude some looser...
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    They still have their nukes in September 1992.
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    Alien Space Bats show Ukrainians living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also how it got there

    Alien Space Bats show all Ukrainians (but no one else) living on September 12, 1992 a vision of what their country will look like 30 years later and also just how it got there. All Ukrainians immediately believe in the sincerity of this vision. What do Ukrainians do differently over the next 30...
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