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It's an emotionally and politically charged topic. People tend to lose their minds. I prefer to have a conversation. I don't want to just be surrounded by an echo chamber. I want different perspectives. Even if I disagree, i'm still happy to have a conversation about it.

I respect your right to your opinion.

At some point, people overlap. I'm with you on that. I think we more so don't align on just how severe the issue is. I think there's quite alot of something akin to "Satanic Panic" going on here, massively inflating the issue due to certain "news" outlets focusing on some outlier incidents.

Self-loathing is a thing. See that's the thing. I agree. That should not happen and... an overwhelming majority of the time, it's not. "A" middle school teacher recommended the book. Yes, that singular incident is wrong. If we could approach this reasonably and without the conservative...

You want to die on the hill of homophobia and wild conspiracy theories, restricting knowledge to make potentially dangerous activities safer? Be my guest, just keep in mind that you are part of the problem.

Not really, it's a classic conservative twisting reality to fit what you want. I've said this isn't being taught on in schools. It's a book that is available in some libraries... There's a pretty massive difference.

I think the book is potentially appropriate for middle school and definitely for high school. The thing is, books like these provide information on how to do the things they're going to do... safely. "Gay people exist". No shit. Now the 16 year old kid who IS gay thinks "Oh man, I would...

I experimented around that time... I was not sexualized or groomed. I just... liked girls. I was like 12-13 when I first tried some sexual stuff. Don't get me wrong. I would be more comfortable with this being available in a High School library. Gay people exist. Shocking, I know. Sometimes...

Are these being taught in the classroom as part of a course, or simply available in some libraries? I can find precisely zero evidence of such things being actively instructed in schools. Libraries have books, which aren't always Reactionary Conservative Approved. I'm shocked.

Maybe, but it is definitely around the time that kids will start experimenting. I would probably be more in favor that being a more high school-available text. In all fairness though, the book does seem to geared towards "If you're going to do this, here's how to do it more safely". That's...

This right here is the end of the discussion. I can't have any sort of actual discussion with somebody who is so far removed from reality as to say something like this.

The issue being that... it seems most homeschool specifically to ensure that their children are presented a narrow worldview... It's fairly rare to potentially unheard of to find someone homeschool being public school isn't doing enough to provide a broad worldview to their children and...

I think that's an incredibly overstated gay panic. I don't have kids myself, but many of friends have various school aged kids.... and I live in NJ, about as Blue as Blue States get. That... hasn't happened? They get taught tolerance and such but "convincing them they are trans" doesn't really...

To me that sounds terrible, only good for raising a child with an incredibly narrow worldview who will almost certainly be at a disadvantage later in life. I mean, you CAN do that. But by and large, more experience with more things is better than less experience with less things. Not to...

Also completely acceptable. Of course, other members of the public with different views from your own can and will also work to change the system to something they feel is better for the public.

As with most things, i'm generally in the middle here. I see what you're saying, but I think you're veering outrageously into "gay panic" territory. There's very little being taught in schools that (should be) particularly controversial. They're teaching that gay people exist, and that it's ok...

I wasn't referring to what you said. I *AGREED* with what you said. 100% believe in that. I was referring to Jormungandr's rant.

I have no problem with that. Better than the alternative. Certainly better than the whole tirade about essentially banning any sort of same sex show of affection because, I don't know, pedophiles or something.

That is some twisted logic there. It is not the equivalent of a gay orientation, nor is homosexuality a mental illness. We can walk it back here... using the phrase "Sexual Orientation" isn't as precise as it could be. "Sexual Preference" might be more appropriate. I'm not 100% sure "mental...

I'm doing neither. Pedophilia is more complicated that simple "gay" or "straight". That's the point. I'm in absolutely no way defending pedos in any way shape or form. I was defending gay people from the absolute wacked out homophobia here. It's not ok to be a pedo. It IS ok to be gay...