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:ROFLMAO: - Where are the damned ghost-busters when you want them?:p That's an additional reason why I'm dubious about the idea. Not only did it not fit a number of the facts but also it made no sense. In the short term neither France nor Russia was a direct threat to Britain because they...

It was pretty hysterical even after Russian control extended to the borders of Afghanistan and it had railways reaching the region but then even back in ~1807 Napoleon was seriously suggesting to the Russian Czar for a joint attack on the British position in India. Many people tend to overlook...

Actually there were concerns about French power, not only in Britain but across much of the continent until 1870. Russia was however seen as the main threat to many states in Europe until the Crimean War showed its relative economic and technological backwardness.

WWI would refute your argument. It took all three great powers and then the addition of resources from the US to defeat Germany and its allies. True the allies made a lot of mistakes and with better decision making or some luck could have done it earlier but it would have still been a tough...

Because Britain was willing to face up to problems at the time, at least in terms of foreign threats. A power or coalition that overwhelmingly dominated the continent was an existential threat to Britain and the government knew it. That's why Britain has virtually always reacted to a single...

If only Britain had been that realistic about the EU things might be a lot better for Britain and probably for the continent now. ;)

Actually if that had been the case Britain would have been driven to put up with the erratic behaviour of Berlin and seek some sort of agreement with them. In this period neither France or Russia could seriously threaten the British home islands and even the potential Russia threat to the ME...

I would agree that its unlikely it would trigger a WWI but if France is a lot more powerful and confident with a Rhinese protectorate and related economic development and a Carlist Spain as an ally/puppet it might seek to protect that ally and its interests. After all while the US, barring...

Interesting thanks. Sorry I missed this earlier but that could mean that the same people develop the process and/or the French but that its deployed on the anti-Prussian side.

Depending on the circumstances as to the last bit. ;) Britain and then the US were vital in OTL WWI but both sides made so many mistakes that it could have gone either way. Definitely whoever has Britain has a big advantage due to their naval and economic/fiscal power, although without changes...

Now that could give some strong butterflies. Not just in terms of the US of course, Either a slightly harder Spanish American war - or a lot harder if an allied French empire is drawn into the conflict which could escalate into an earlier WWI - or possibly avoid it altogether. I think a...

Well unless someone win's an early knock-out blow or the non-British side has developed some version of the Boach-Haber process their going to lose, probably within a year or two. ;) Although Russia would probably accept a limited defeat as invading deep inside it would be pretty much pointless.

I have some doubts about the last bit. If allied to Britain any Prussian/N German state is unlikely to develop or use subs much as their the weaken of the inferior fleet. Its more likely that France, which has a history of thinking of commerce warfare as a counter to Britain's naval...

Unfortunately that sounds very much like Cadorna. :mad: As well as lacking any strategic ability that I can see off he seemed to have pretty much total contempt for the soldiers unfortunately enough to be under his command. I'm surprised, given the natural problems on the Isonzo and the...

Guys Interesting discussion. If somehow France won very big then the intelligent thing would be to try and dismantle Prussia itself, or at least deprive it of its western possessions. Setting up some western buffers such as a revived Rhine state - albeit probably a monarchy under those...

A lot would depend on the circumstances, such as does the French empire survive, does Prussia/N Germany see the OTL dramatic economic growth and the like. A hell of a lot can change and it should be remembered it was only in 1904 that Britain signed the entente with France [and 1907 with...