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Then will do you insist that we take your word as absolute truth despite evidence to the otherwise? You do have two qualifiers there as well, a) if god exists and b) if the Catholic or any other church actually closely follows Jesus's teaching. Can see some brief mentions of the book but...

The problem is that your so confident that you are absolutely right about everything simply because you say so. That's the point I'm making. Your refusing to accept that you are capable of error. No doubt there are homosexuals in the Catholic [and other] churches. Its sheer size makes...

Stick to your ignorance then. Closed minds like yours are incapable of learning anything because you dare not consider yourself capable of error. Hence the insults and lies while you avoid responding to any points. Goodbye.

So your saying that the Catholic church doesn't follow Christian doctrine? Or claim it is the only correct way of living? Interesting. The basic idea, as of all the Abrahamic faiths is that all that matters is god's will and obedience to him - which human nature and the resulting corruption in...

I support the idea that people are people and not property and have rights, which is something that ATL has repeatedly rejected, as does Abrahamic doctrine. Trial by jury, in some form long predates the Papal Inquisition. Yes at times members of the clergy have played a role in science...

The same old blind statements of assumption as facts, even when their wrong. Along with the idiotic suggestion that the Catholic church has become dominated by homosexuals. How many Popes have been gay then? Because its the higher ranks that permitted the continued hiding of the abuses...

A hell of a lot of avoiding questions there and blanket statements that any look at history would quickly be shown as inaccurate. However lets get to the core of the issue. Correct me if I'm wrong but Abrahamic faiths declare their god as perfect and also often omnipotent and all seeing...

So as you say the Catholic church rejected the real world. Because it stuck to dogma regardless of the facts. ;) Wrong. Some early ones sought to find laws by which the universe worked because they thought God made such laws. As knowledge expanded it became clear that such laws, or more...

The Papacy like its Islamic equivalent and sometimes more locally often made statements that opposed people asking questions, even about things only loosely related to whatever interpretation of dogma Rome was finding useful at the time. Reason was frequently denied by the churches...

The scientific method relies on an agreement on what the facts are but its noted that this view can change with growing knowledge. For instance changes of Newtonian physics because of Einstein. As such truth for it is variable. For dogmatic faith based systems, which I include things like...

Actually Christianity, like all the Abrahamic religions are by definition totalitarian. It can't be anything else when it claims an absolute monopoly on 'the truth' and defining absolute right and wrong. The law rarely limited kings for most of history, even when there were restrictions in...