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I didn't say God doesn't exist or that materialism was true. I just don't see any reason to think humans have some additional part that goes to an undetectable other place when we die. I can't disprove it, but I can't disprove that the universe was created yesterday at 4 in the afternoon. That...

Or it just doesn't exist.

Yeah. Our evidence for their being life in something is that it is alive. When it stops being alive, the life is gone. You claim it goes to some invisible other place. I don't see any grounds to think so.

I mean in the absence of any evidence to the contrary I'm pretty sure I do. Your claiming that there is something unverifiable going on. Pretty sure the burden of proof is on you. I can point to a nonfunctional body as evidence of whatever animating principle it possessed being dependent on the...

No, in the first case I'm explaining why I think death being the end of human existence is prima facie correct. I don't see any reason to doubt that the corpses of dead people are all that are left after their death. I think dounting that would require some additional evidence. In the second...

What more reason is needed than the fact dead people aren't around anymore? Corpses remain in existence. Bodies don't. A body is a living thing with a substantial form, a corpse isn't. The body ceases to be when it dies.

There doesn't seem to be any reason to doubt it. Sure, but I don't think there is any reason to think souls continue to exist without their bodies, any more than bodies continue to exist without their souls. Agreed.

I don't believe the arguments for the immortality of the soul are convincing. I think the undermining comes from having human souls stand out as unique phenomena in an otherwise consistent system. You are correct. I think when we die, we actually die. Cease to be. Kaput. If there is going to...

The Catholics had absorbed the Platonic soul into their theology, so it was an element Aquinas had to take as a given. That's why Aquinas claims the soul of a person is indestructible can survive without the matter it informs and is the site of all rational and sensible powers of a person, not...

Aquinas undermined himself by tacking on Platonic notions of the soul and the heavens as opposed to embracing a pure Aristotelian ontology.