Fallout Perpetual Debate of Bethesda Versus Interplay/Obsidian Fallout World Design

[mrttao]

It's a bit disingenuous to pick a "settlement" when it's really just a camp with two people, said settlement actually can't survive with out assistance from the Minute Men.

I was expecting you to be honest and point out some gaps in Megaton but apparently you're trying to be cheeky 😒

i don't have the game installed and it was litearlly the first shit that came up. i already wasted like 20 minutes of my life on this nosense.
why don't you film a video going through random houses in major settlements and showing how their rooms are properly walled and roofed?

 

[Scooby Doo]

i don't have the game installed and it was litearlly the first shit that came up. i already wasted like 20 minutes of my life on this nosense.
why don't you film a video going through random houses in major settlements and showing how their rooms are properly walled and roofed?

According to you roofs and walls don't exist in Fallout Bethesda 🤷

 

[Typhonis]

Fallout Berlin

 

[Carrot of Truth]

These are the aesthetics that Fallout should have IMO.

 

[Husky_Khan]

They literally build their settlements out of metal

I thought several of the settlement concepts in Fallout 3 were pretty neat designs. I lover Rivet City and even Arefu because I remember doing post-apoc pen and paper style RPGs with designs like that, living on a warship or stop a large bridge.

The latter was partly inspired I think from a little known game Lost Planet: Extreme Condition where settlers on the ice planet setting made their home on a former massive bridge of some sort.

I do think the details are interesting in contrasting Fallout New Vegas settlements versus ones in Fallout 3. The ones in FNV did feel a bit more fleshed out in many cases with little details added here and there.

But hearing complaints about Megatons water table is kinda low-key cringe. Like anyone cares about that.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I thought several of the settlement concepts in Fallout 3 were pretty neat designs. I lover Rivet City and even Arefu because I remember doing post-apoc pen and paper style RPGs with designs like that, living on a warship or stop a large bridge.

The latter was partly inspired I think from a little known game Lost Planet: Extreme Condition where settlers on the ice planet setting made their home on a former massive bridge of some sort.

I do think the details are interesting in contrasting Fallout New Vegas settlements versus ones in Fallout 3. The ones in FNV did feel a bit more fleshed out in many cases with little details added here and there.

But hearing complaints about Megatons water table is kinda low-key cringe. Like anyone cares about that.

I think Bethesda just uses too much scrap metal in their settlements so people by default assume that the East Coast setting never attempted to recover because aesthetically heavy metal settlements look like absolute garbage.


They need to make more clean looking settlements that are confirmed to be made post war, we know Bethesda can do it since the Institute did it.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I think City 17 in Half Life 2 is the correct aesthetic for what a 200 year later post war city should look like. Basically it looks weathered and run down but also like people are trying to maintain it as best they can.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I think City 17 in Half Life 2 is the correct aesthetic for what a 200 year later post war city should look like. Basically it looks weathered and run down but also like people are trying to maintain it as best they can.

Context wise that's because the Combine pushed everyone into super cities, if you look outside of City 17 it's trashed and run down.

 

[Ixian]

Oh I mean sure, play all of the DLC's of all of the games. They're all kinda neato.
Controversial take but I actually really enjoy the Zeta mothership DLC. XD

I'll back that take.

Mothership Zeta was enjoyable, not sure if it's a great fit in the timeline of canon events, but it was fun to play through.

 

[mrttao]

According to you roofs and walls don't exist in Fallout Bethesda 🤷

No, according to me roofs and walls have HOLES in them

also, I asked for video of you walking through houses and looking at the walls and roof. not zoomed all the way out aerial view where you can not see jack shit.

yet even in the aerial view you posted you can make out holes in the roofs.
like in this one:

just look around, you can clearly see holes

 

[Scooby Doo]

No, according to me roofs and walls have HOLES in them

also, I asked for video of you walking through houses and looking at the walls and roof. not zoomed all the way out aerial view where you can not see jack shit.

yet even in the aerial view you posted you can make out holes in the roofs.
like in this one:

just look around, you can clearly see holes

You said the holes were big enough to fit rad roaches in?

If we're going to talk about holes in general they're plenty in New Vegas 🤷

 

[mrttao]

You said the holes were big enough to fit rad roaches in?

If we're going to talk about holes in general they're plenty in New Vegas 🤷

1. the holes you can see from the aerial view definitely can fit a radroach.
2. I did also mention people would die of exposure from the smaller holes. although I guess we can just agree on that one and instead focus on the radroach holes? I am ok with that.

 

[Scooby Doo]

1. the holes you can see from the aerial view definitely can fit a radroach.

Proof?
I don't see that, infact Rad roaches are the size of a human torso where are the rad roach sized holes?

2. I did also mention people would die of exposure from the smaller holes.

Put down the crack pipe mate 😂
People in New Vegas have survived in fucking caves, just create a fire..what stupid ass thing to say.
Dur deh uho expusre!

Live reaction of humans dying from exposure

Live reaction of Caesar dying from exposure

Live reaction entire Dead horse clan dying from exposure
😂😂😂

although I guess we can just agree on that one and instead focus on the radroach holes? I am ok with that.

You mean some minor holes from some metal that still canonically protect from the weather?

Manya Vargas: "Long ago, before the war, there used to be machines they were like buses, but they flew through the sky, taking people anywhere they wanted to go. You didn't have to walk, you just went to the air station, bought a ticket, and took to the skies. Anywhere in the world, you just up and flew there. When the war happened, the machines started dropping from the sky. Everyone around here thinks that the bomb made the crater, but it didn't. The crater provided good cover from the dust storms and when my daddy and the rest of the town decided to build the walls, they used what they had. Besides, it's sturdy. It keeps the Raiders and the dust storms out. Not all of us had the luck to be born in a vault, you know."

 

[mrttao]

You mean some minor holes from some metal that still canonically protect from the weather?

clearly she is lying.
or the art team did not get the memo

Proof?

you literally posted the picture proof of it. look more carefully at the buildings in the picture you posted. you can see the holes

 

[Scooby Doo]

clearly she is lying.
or the art team did not get the memo

Sounds like head canon.

you literally posted the picture proof of it. look more carefully at the buildings in the picture you posted. you can see the holes

Show me a radroach sized hole, back up your claim or admit you're lying 🤷

Here I'll help you with showing you how big a Radroach is in Fallout 3

I'm waiting 🙄

 

[Carrot of Truth]

These are small homes that were completely built with salvaged materials. They are much more aesthetically pleasing IMO. Notice they don't look like something built by 5 year olds.

 

[Scooby Doo]

These are small homes that were completely built with salvaged materials. They are much more aesthetically pleasing IMO. Notice they don't look like something built by 5 year olds.

Salvaged Materials?

Really, okay what's your source? Please don't tell me it's Home Depo or some equivalent 🙄

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Salvaged Materials?

Really, okay what's your source? Please don't tell me it's Home Depo or some equivalent 🙄

Dude I built my deer camp with all salvaged material via tearing down old houses. It's something that people used to do often back in the day. Although in my case I did buy new wiring and plumbing for obvious reasons. Heck the house I grew up in was built that way.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Dude I built my deer camp with all salvaged material via tearing down old houses. It's something that people used to do often back in the day. Although in my case I did buy new wiring and plumbing for obvious reasons. Heck the house I grew up in was built that way.

Oh did you use 200 year old materials to build your deer camp?

Really I'd like to see that

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Oh did you use 200 year old materials to build your deer camp?

Really I'd like to see that

Obviously not jackass but the state of the wooden houses in FO4 are definitely in good enough shape to be torn down and recycled.