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Crossover The Flagship(s) of the Migrant Fleet in a InterGalactic Apocalypse

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This was kinda meant to be a Quest or a CYOA but I don't have much experience/ambition with either so I'm throwing it up here for hopefully some interesting discussion.



Humanity is Lost. The Home Systems and Core Worlds are in Ruins and all that Remains of the Scattered Remnants of Human Civilization are the Migrant Fleets which have coalesced around the last remaining warships of their respective shattered civilizations. Having decided to overcome their differences, the survivors and exiles have coalesced into a larger collection of vessels for greater security and efficiency in spite of knowing the risk of gathering a majority of their Fleets in one grouping.

Now they have a proper fleet, not just a collection of random hodgepodge vessels working independently and occasionally against each other. All ships are considered to have fully experienced if not veteran crews if not stated otherwise. Same with crew complement, supplies and munitions and all ships are in good states of repair and function. Fleets with 'Migrant' support will be able to replenish most supplies and be able to repair and refit the flagship vessels if given enough time.

1. USS Venture (Star Trek): A Galaxy-class Starship under the command of Admiral William Ross. The USS Venture hasn't undergone any "Dominion War Upgrades" but Admiral Ross and the crew are veterans of many of the Battles that led up to the Treaty of Bajor. The Galaxy-class has a full standard crew... plus families and support personnel because we like it old school. Their migrant fleet is accompanied by a hundred or so unarmed or lightly armed civilian craft, all warp capable. Maybe there's a mighty Oberth or two. Most are Federation but also include a smattering of other Alpha and Beta Quadrant races (Ferengi, Cardassian, Klingon, Romulan, Gorn etc). The two quadrants were taken over by the Borg Collective. Probably Janeway's fault. So they fled.

2. McKenna's Pride (Battletech): Commanded by Khan Sarah McEvedy of Clan Wolverine the so-called Minnesota Tribe. The McKenna's Pride is a McKenna-class Battleship. This deviates from the canon novel. Clan Wolverine manages to escape mostly intact (no Battle/Massacre at Barbados) and thus their exiled fleet is basically their entire Clan that wasn't left behind in the initial rearguard actions in Clan Space. And they stole McKenna's Pride as well. What a nice bonus. They made a short diversion into Draconis Combine space, freed some prisoners, took one look around and decided to strike it out into the Cosmos instead.

3. EAS Agamemnon (Babylon 5): Under Commander James, a protege of John Sheridan, the Earth Alliance Omega-class Destroyer Agamemnon is a veteran of numerous conflicts including the Earth Civil War. Sadly someone opened a portal to Thirdspace soonafter and while the portal was eventually destroyed, so was most of known space. Survivors are being hounded by the Drakh, remaining Thirdspace Aliens and other bandits/pirates and have gathered around the EAS Agamemnon due to the Commander's reputation and relationship with John Sheridan. This fleet is a eclectic mix of all of the Babylon 5 races including Minbari, Centauri, Narn and assorted League of Non-Aligned Worlds types but all of the vessels are small and lightly armed. They do have a massive Explorer-class ship with them.

4. USS Odyssey (Stargate): Under the Command of USAF Colonel Paul Emerson, this Daedalus-class Battlecruiser served in numerous battles against the Goa'uld, Wraith and Ori but sadly, someone decided it was a good idea to plant a Replicator in the Ori Home Galaxy. That backfired and the Replicators soon started nomming on all of that juicy Ori tech... and promptly invaded the Milky Way Galaxy... again. So far no evidence has surfaced of any Replicater Waifus however. The Odyssey is accompanied by a large number of Al'kesh and Cargo Ships of the Free Jaffa Nation and little else. Most of Humanities scant survivors are hiding out on various Offworld Sites across multiple galaxies instead.

5. SSV Kilimanjaro (Mass Effect): Under the command of Rear Admiral Hannah Shepard, (who is Commander Shepards Mommy for you Anime appreciators out there) this undoubtedly vivacious Redhead, the Kilimanjaro-class Dreadnought survived what was likely one of the terrible choices Shepard was unfairly coerced into picking at the end of Mass Effect 3 and now Reapers are everywhere. Thanks to Bioware writers, she now leads a literal Migrant fleet of mostly Human but a smattering of other Citadel Race (and Batarian/Geth) survivors numbering about a hundred ships or so.

6. UNSC Leviathan (Halo): A Marathon-class Heavy Cruiser from the United Nations Space Command and under the direct command of Vice Admiral Michael Stanforth. Due to a twist of fate, he was escorting a hundred or so transports of noncombatants away from the Reach to one of the uncharted Outer Colonies when somebody triggered a previously undiscovered Halo shaped device and wiped out 99.9999999 or so % of the Known Population of the Galaxy, both Human and Covenant. Also annoying as fuck robots are swarming about lasering any survivors they find to death. And for some reason, the Covenant remnants still want to prosecute this War as well.

7. ISD Right to Rule (Star Wars): An Imperial-I class Star Destroyer under the command of the somewhat well known Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon, the ISD Right to Rule is leading a surviving Migrant Fleet of about a hundred Imperial ships, a literal remnant of a remnant now that the Star Wars galaxy has fallen to the lameass Yuuzhang Vong. So much for "There's More of Us" and all that nonsense. Thanks a lot New Republic. Thanks a lot 'Diversity Alliance.' Oh Star Wars was so based back then.

8. DSS Aleksander (Starcraft): The DSS Aleksander is leading the remnants of the UED Fleet (minus RTS game mechanics sorry) in the wake of the disastrous Expedition to the Koprolu Sector. Thankfully Kerrigan's Zerg didn't overtake them.... yet but they did lose almost all of their combat capability. Thankfully that Terran tech is robust and the surviving vessels are transports, science labs (filled with Zerg testing supplies perhaps) and colony ships ready to build anew since they can't go home and they can't stay here. Oh and Admiral Gerard DuGalle is still alive and in charge. He has a letter to deliver after all. The UED seems to be inaccessible however. Maybe Space Wizard magic.

9. Battlestar Pegasus (Battlestar: Galactica 2004): Under the command of Helena Cain, instead of encountering the Galactica, it encounters one of the Migrant Fleets. The Pegasus however... is not accompanied by any surviving vessels from its civilization. It's a mystery that only a drunk XO can reveal.

10. USS Esmerelda (AvPverse): A Conestoga-class Light Assault Transport. It managed to flee while carrying on board two thousand colonists and their families in hypersleep as well as a full platoon of marines with synthetic support and a full complement of weapons, equipment, vehicles and supplies. It is accompanied by no other vessels. It is under the command of a United States Colonial Marine Colonel, Olivia Shipp. What is believed to be an alien intelligence infested large numbers of the Colonies with Xenomorphs, overwhelming local areas. The USS Esmerelda followed orders in successfully evacuating one mining colony but found no one at the rendezvous and has remained in solitary exile since.



The combined fleets have only the above ten major warships and whatever complement of smaller craft ranging from probe droids to dropships on board. Similar origin for them all is that their home systems/civilizations have been overrun or destroyed or simply cannot be returned to in any reliable fashion due to astrophysical technobabble or something.

This is a Crossover so the Human factions are able to communicate with each other and there's no weird nonsense pertaining to 4th Wall/Genre Savvy Awareness or whatever. Star Wars doesn't exist in Stargate etc. The various Human Fleets managed to encounter each other either by being encountered by vessels from the fleets such as USS Venture, McKenna's Pride and USS Odyssey who might be actively looking for people, or the other vessels looking for/or looking to avoid the enemies pursuing them.

As to how all of these vessels encountered each other, portals and subspace rifts or traveling through B5 Hyperspace a certain way etc. More and more are being mapped out, unfortunately its mostly by enemy factions. As mentioned in each ship entry, major enemies such as the Borg Collective, Reapers or Yuuzhang Vong are out there but so are lesser enemies/adversaries such as Raiders, Space Pirates, Covenant Remnants and the like with them.

The main goals of the Migrant Fleet are open, but they are deciding there is safety in numbers. They just need to marshal resources and figure out how to get out of their predicament. Their main goals beyond a marginal existence are kind of as follows.

1. Explore Space Looking for Rifts and Wormholes and Hyperspace routes that can lead to safety and allow the Migrant Fleet breathing space or even the possibility of settlement in safety.

2. Explore Space Looking for Other Migrant Fleets/Survivors. Maybe the Quarian Migrant Fleet is still out there. Or the Tok'ra. Or more audaciously the First Ones Beyond the Rim in Babylon 5 can be contacted. Or maybe whole new civilizations? The setting of Freespace or Wing Commander or Firefly (high chance they're experiencing similar downturns) etc. Resources should be dedicated to the best way (albeit risky) of acquiring more assistance.

3. Fight back. The Migrant Fleets are being actively hunted by overwhelmingly powerful enemies but preliminary reports show that a lot of these foes... do not get along with each other. Vong certainly are too technophobic for the Borg Collective, much less the Replicators. The Zerg want to nom nom on everyone. And the Yautja/Predators are Equal Opportunity Hunters of worthy prey etc. And while having your enemies fight each other is fun and all... you also don't want to inadvertently create an even greater and more formidable adversary whose strengthened by further conquests.

So this is really open ended... and if it'll foment discussion maybe I'll throw up more stringent guidelines or concepts... And yeah... I'm not big on calcs or anything, use your best judgement. I prefer more thematic and holistic interpretations myself to be honest but it's open to your interpretation. This isn't really a Versus per se.

Point of All of this Nerdium:

With the Fleet Laid Out as is, lets say your butt was somehow elected by the various Flagship Captains to be the overall leader of these Ten Different Factions/Fleets. How would you marshal your resources and utilize what's been given to you to pursue a goal of ensuring the continued survival of Human Civilization and hopefully in finding a way to stabilize the situation and set it up to thrive.
 

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So umm if we have legends Star Wars can’t we wipe out the reapers? Also what choice did shepherd pick?
 

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You only have the one Imperial-I Star Destroyer in spite of whatever metrics you feel is appropriate for Star Wars.
Yes but there are 100 other Imperial ships. Maybe clone war era combat ships. It would be enough to destroy the Reapers and hide in Mass Effect for a bit to build up, and then deal with the bigger issues.

The Refuse Option seems most appropriate.
God damn dumb bitch. If all the options suck pick destroy or control.
 

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Yes but there are 100 other Imperial ships. Maybe clone war era combat ships. It would be enough to destroy the Reapers and hide in Mass Effect for a bit to build up, and then deal with the bigger issues.
Most of those ships are noncombatant vessels ala the Battlestar Galactica Migrant Fleet.
 

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So not Acclimators, or Venators, or whatever? Shit.
Yeah. The idea is just ten proper and powerful warships and hundreds of hangers on that support the fleet ala Battlestar Galactica style. I know it's a pretty open ended type of thread but I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts of how things could or should potentially go down with such a premise.

Targeting the "weakest" of the enemies is a perfectly valid position to take to a point after all. Some of the foes can be interpreted as easier to take on then others but alas, yes, there are only the ten major warships at the moment and I doubt all of them can be used effectively for offensive purposes at any one time.
 

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OP seriously forgot the Dahakverse...
If I was going to choose a Weberverse setting it probably would've been Honorverse. But unlike the ten above, there's a fair bit of easily accessible information on the ten ships/settings listed. Plus Honorverse is kinda wonky anyhow with fairly distinct space combat.

I also considered Wing Commander & Freespace but they seemed a bit too sparse on information. Andromeda was a bit too potentially OP or just too different and some Gundam or Macross/Robotech style settings but nothing really fit plus I wasn't sure I'd do them credit.

I am planning on a crossover/comparison idea with Honor Harrington though in the future.
 

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Well the Stargate ship has a massive speed advantage over everyone else to the point that intergalactic trips can be made.

EDIT: If all of these factions could share their tech then the end result would be something pretty crazy.
 
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If I was going to choose a Weberverse setting it probably would've been Honorverse. But unlike the ten above, there's a fair bit of easily accessible information on the ten ships/settings listed. Plus Honorverse is kinda wonky anyhow with fairly distinct space combat.

I also considered Wing Commander & Freespace but they seemed a bit too sparse on information. Andromeda was a bit too potentially OP or just too different and some Gundam or Macross/Robotech style settings but nothing really fit plus I wasn't sure I'd do them credit.

I am planning on a crossover/comparison idea with Honor Harrington though in the future.
Well I would love to see more Wing Commander to be sure if you change your mind. Best to stick with the Tiger's Claw though, those phase shields that show up on later ships are going to rapidly become OP otherwise.
 

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Well the Stargate ship has a massive speed advantage over everyone else to the point that intergalactic trips can be made.
I never really saw much of the later seasons of Stargate Atlantis so I was wondering if they ever mitigated the intergalactic travel by starships because I know at the beginning of the season it was a ZPM draining trip. I'm assuming they found a more efficient solution.

EDIT: If all of these factions could share their tech then the end result would be something pretty crazy.
It would be. I'm not opposed to tech sharing but I'd prefer it to be something more long term. But considering that this OP is pretty open ended, it would be interesting to see what sort of Frakentech could be cobbled together by the limited resources available regardless of time frame.
 

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I never really saw much of the later seasons of Stargate Atlantis so I was wondering if they ever mitigated the intergalactic travel by starships because I know at the beginning of the season it was a ZPM draining trip. I'm assuming they found a more efficient solution.
They got Asgard hyperdrives so the trip was a trivial two week thing by ship, With a ZPM it could be reduced to two days.

It would be. I'm not opposed to tech sharing but I'd prefer it to be something more long term. But considering that this OP is pretty open ended, it would be interesting to see what sort of Frakentech could be cobbled together by the limited resources available regardless of time frame.
With Star Trek style replicators worrying about resources becomes a non issue as well.
 

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If we're going off legends, then the ISD Right to Rule is undoubtedly the flagship should these fleets ever coalesce. Pellaeon is a full blown Admiral anyway so he does outrank quite a few of the others and is a proven, experienced, leader. Also his migrant fleet is made up of Imperial ships (or we talking Gozantis or Arquitens?) and there doesn't seem to be such thing as an "unarmed" Imperial ship.

Having said that, the Pegasus would be so very valuable...and Cain would be in no position whatsoever to deny the Empire. All Pellaeon really needs is that ship and its manufacturing capabilities coupled with Tie fighter blueprints, and he's good to go with his fighter wing.
 

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If we're going off legends, then the ISD Right to Rule is undoubtedly the flagship should these fleets ever coalesce. Pellaeon is a full blown Admiral anyway so he does outrank quite a few of the others and is a proven, experienced, leader. Also his migrant fleet is made up of Imperial ships (or we talking Gozantis or Arquitens?) and there doesn't seem to be such thing as an "unarmed" Imperial ship.

Having said that, the Pegasus would be so very valuable...and Cain would be in no position whatsoever to deny the Empire. All Pellaeon really needs is that ship and its manufacturing capabilities coupled with Tie fighter blueprints, and he's good to go with his fighter wing.

I'd argue that the USS venture could take on the leadership role because its the only vessel capable of resupplying or making new parts for the others. Although from what I recall some Halo ships were also capable of manufacturing stuff as well but it wouldn't be to the same degree as a Star trek ship.
 

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I'd argue that the USS venture could take on the leadership role because its the only vessel capable of resupplying or making new parts for the others.
It would be an excellent Auxiliary ship, but in terms of size, armour and raw firepower, it just isn't a Star Destroyer. In battle that is where you'd want your flag to be.
 

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It would be an excellent Auxiliary ship, but in terms of size, armour and raw firepower, it just isn't a Star Destroyer. In battle that is where you'd want your flag to be.
Actually something I just remembered is that the Odyssey has a Star Trek style replicator too or perhaps even better with the Asgard memory core.
 
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Actually something I just remembers is that the Odyssey has a Star Trek style replicator too or perhaps even better with the Asgard memory core.
Odyssey could serve as an Auxiliary too, although I think "scout on steroids" suits its fleet role. This is an actual battlecruiser that can engage and run down the vast majority of vessels in sci-fi.
 

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Odyssey could serve as an Auxiliary too, although I think "scout on steroids" suits its fleet role. This is an actual battlecruiser that can engage and run down the vast majority of vessels in sci-fi.
Well unless the Star Wars ship is the Disney cannon version then the Odyssey is the heavy hitter of the fleet.
 
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