WI Britain & France declared war on Germany right after occupation of Prague?

raharris1973

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What if Britain, followed by France, declared war on Germany right after the occupation of Prague in March 1939.

Chamberlain does this in a fit of pique over Hitler pissing over Munich, riding popular outrage, while rationalizing that it frees Britain's hands to commence blockade and all-out economic warfare, including freezing of Czech funds in British banks.

Like in OTL, the ground war in Europe is 'phony' with no plan for an attack into Germany. It is even worse because the French are not ready for the limited Saar move of OTL.

With war declared and being fought at sea, London and Paris are not trying to calm matters and thus do not discourage any eastern neighbors of Germany, like Poland, from mobilizing.

Some questions follow:

Does Italy DoW the west in solidarity with Germany?

Does Italy still occupy/annex Albania on schedule in April 1939, or put that off in light of the new aggressive Anglo-French stance?

I assume Hitler starts making overtures to the USSR earlier for a nonaggression and especially a trade deal (or does he not?).
Is Stalin any less receptive to it than OTL?

Stalin is dealing with some broadly similar opportunities- to expand in Eastern Europe, and stand aside from a west vs Germany conflict. But he is dealing with a somewhat different set of evidence and historical record of western behavior compared to OTL, and earlier. Instead of seeing the westerners break a guarantee and promise a new one to Poland he's seen them sacrifice Czechoslovakia but declare war over it and blockade Germany, showing more seriousness. On the other hand, lack of a ground offensive still shows some unseriousness.

Will Germany attack west into France and the Low Countries in 1939? Or wait until 1939 for some reason?

If not attacking west ASAP, would Germany do any preliminary campaigns first against Poland or Denmark Norway to secure flanks, resources or borders?

How would any German 1939 campaigning do?

Additional questions would be if a spring 1939 DoW on Germany could hurt Britain or especially France by activating US Neutrality laws if the time and thereby preventing exports of any important munitions, aircraft or other materiel to the Allies in the spring and summer months of 1939?

Additionally is Britain and France being in a declared state of war with Germany before May 1939 forces Britain to make further appeasing concessions to Japan to prevent a diplomatic break and war on that front- perhaps having to hand over the silver in the vaults of Tianjin? Or could hotheads in North China and Japan see British encumbrance by war with Germany as an opportunity to drive them out of China by force that cannot be passed up?
 
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Not possible - british secret Rhodes society,which ruled England from 1891,still supported Germany.
But,if it happened - germans would attack France and win,or,if Poland agree to be England toy,Poland and notching change.
 
the French are not ready for the limited Saar move of OTL.
The French would be "ready to go" about day M+14. Hence things would go hot on the Westwall in the first week of April.
London and Paris are not trying to calm matters and thus do not discourage any eastern neighbors of Germany, like Poland, from mobilizing.
In this scenario I'd expect the Allies to be offering to bankroll Poland's mobilisation.
Hungary mobilises to grab some Slovak pie, Romania mobilises because Hugary mobilises - and to warn off Stalin.
Does Italy DoW the west in solidarity with Germany?
Why should it? Benito is enjoying a cold beer with a side of salted pistachios while watching the show ...
I assume Hitler starts making overtures to the USSR earlier for a nonaggression and especially a trade deal (or does he not?).
Maaaybe ...
Like you said - Stalin is overjoyed with the "imperialists" going at one another. He will wait and see how things develop.

lack of a ground offensive still shows some unseriousness.
Like I said - ma ground offensive will come just after 1.IV.
Will Germany attack west into France and the Low Countries in 1939?
The Heer, regardless how much it had improved over the armed mob it had been in III. and IX. 1938, is balls-deep in Czech lands. Untangling those units, entraining them (including sending the trains to pick them up FIRST), moving and debussing in the West takes 2-3 weeks - they should be ready for action there about the time the French attack.

Use of Czech equipment? Not before the end of summer.

Poland not attacked by Soviets - Heer must keep 30-50 Divisions in East, leaving ... 30-50 Divisions for the West ...

BTW - France has 30-40 active Divisions which will be combat ready by April. And that's practically it - the activation of Reserve Divisions will take several months. And it will be an early and heavy winter - just saying :).
Staltemate at the frontline, soldiers deep in mud ...

There are so many possibilities ... :
- Allies throw Poland under Soviet bus to get the Great Genocider's assistance;
- the above may lead to Berlin becoming Warsaw's New Best Friend ...
- French offensive goes reasonably well, Poland strikes at Germany, bogs down - of course, but fierce fighting keeps most of Heer in the East;
- due to the above Hitler is ousted and new Government seeks terms;
- or even earlier the Allied DOW leads to coup/assassination attempts and Germany implodes into infighting/new Gov't seeks terms;
 
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The French would be "ready to go" about day M+14. Hence things would go hot on the Westwall in the first week of April.

In this scenario I'd expect the Allies to be offering to bankroll Poland's mobilisation.
Hungary mobilises to grab some Slovak pie, Romania mobilises because Hugary mobilises - and to warn off Stalin.

Why should it? Benito is enjoying a cold beer with a side of salted pistachios while watching the show ...

Maaaybe ...
Like you said - Stalin is overjoyed with the "imperialists" going at one another. He will wait and see how things develop.


Like I said - ma ground offensive will come just after 1.IV.

The Heer, regardless how much it had improved over the armed mob it had been in III. and IX. 1938, is balls-deep in Czech lands. Untangling those units, entraining them (including sending the trains to pick them up FIRST), moving and debussing in the West takes 2-3 weeks - they should be ready for action there about the time the French attack.

Use of Czech equipment? Not before the end of summer.

Poland not attacked by Soviets - Heer must keep 30-50 Divisions in East, leaving ... 30-50 Divisions for the West ...

BTW - France has 30-40 active Divisions which will be combat ready by April. And that's practically it - the activation of Reserve Divisions will take several months. And it will be an early and heavy winter - just saying :).
Staltemate at the frontline, soldiers deep in mud ...

There are so many possibilities ... :
- Allies throw Poland under Soviet bus to get the Great Genocider's assistance;
- the above may lead to Berlin becoming Warsaw's New Best Friend ...
- French offensive goes reasonably well, Poland strikes at Germany, bogs down - of course, but fierce fighting keeps most of Heer in the East;
- due to the above Hitler is ousted and new Government seeks terms;
- or even earlier the Allied DOW leads to coup/assassination attempts and Germany implodes into infighting/new Gov't seeks terms;
Mostly agree,but i would add one thing - germans would not have ammo for more then one month of fighting,so if France attacked,especially with Poland help,it would end in one month.
 

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