I'll let an active Air Defence soldier summarize the arguments against sending equipment overseas.
Yes. I also corrected my wording. The soldier was supporting giving away all that equipment . . . So the military could finally buy their new replacements or upgrades. I love that Russia is boasting about supersonic missiles. But Uncle Sam believed their claims in the mid 2000s so much, that there is a RIM missile(now in full service and mass produced since 2018) designed specifically to intercept a supersonic maneuverable missile. . . Which it turns out Russia never had, their missile is a supersonic take off missile but it can't maneuver once it reaches that supersonic speed. The USAF is currently the only force with fully supersonic missiles, with mass production of Gen 1 slated for 2025, probably later with the Covid delay.It's just dumb people and propagandists talking to who they consider dumb enough people throwing around numbers without understanding what's behind them for the consumption of said dumb people. North Korea has an insane amount of tube artillery, but that obviously in no way means they have the more powerful army than USA - it's just covering for the fact that what they have is utterly craptastic and one gun of a normal army is effectively worth 10 or 20 of theirs. But to people with as much brain as average bureaucrat in a joke a crappy gun with less than 50% chance of hitting few square kilometers of an island is made equal to guns that can one shot kill point targets, and so are the shells used for both, because a gun is a gun, and a shell is a shell, and it's easier to know basic math than basic math and world military technology standards.
It's not something to be proud of that they produce so much of crap they produce, it's still crap, and they have to rely on said crap. WW2 production figures for fighters are absolutely insane compared to modern ones, but fortunately no one is retarded enough to claim WW2 air forces were more powerful and would wipe supersonic jets out of the sky with their sheer numbers.
Notice how some posters love to try to create off-topic arguments in this thread, usually about sematics or such, and try to divert attention away from what Russia is doing to Ukraine.No I didn't lol. I'll repost for your convenience.
Somehow got distilled into this...
I can get the initial wording can be confusing but the leap of logic and strawmanning over semantics is hilarious.
"Did you rob the victims body after the murder? Then you are involved in the murder."
"WHAT? I DIDN'T MURDER ANYONE! That's false equivalence bullshit Hitler! Retards! Moron! Nazis! Reee!!1""
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"You provided alcohol to the teenagers who got raped? Then you are involved in the rape."
"I'm not a rapist. That's false equivalence bullshit Hitler! Retards! Moron! Nazis! Reee!!1"
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I literally clarified that it was involvement, not equivalence in my first response, hence semantics and then he brings up some iPhone nonsense and goes to town invoking Hitler and Nazis and Retardation for retarded reasons. It's a great example of the high level discussion that takes place here when I made it clear I was stating "involvement" as in being "involved." Not equivocating anything lol.
Stating you are involved in something isn't the equivalent of stating you are doing the thing. This should be obvious but alas... the Child Pornography Defense Brigade is out in force today lol.
Notice how some posters love to try to create off-topic arguments in this thread, usually about sematics or such, and try to divert attention away from what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
Some of the same folks also talk big about 'fighting degeneracy', yet support the nation with one of the highest HIV rates in the world, the nation that uses rape as martial punishment for troops, and which has a record of providing safe-haven for pedo's trying to flee from the West.
Yet another pedo defected to Russia... How many is that in total?National guard member defects to Russia
A former USAF serviceman and Holyoke City Councilor reportedly joined Putin's military in Ukraine after fleeing the US amid child pornography charges.www.newsweek.com
I quoted you as I read it. You also made a post on the same topic right before mine, so you can hardly whine about me continuing to derail the topic when you've done so yourself.
What a delusional dimwitted man Medvedev is. He's calling for a kill order and bounty on NATO troops in Ukraine. That includes the hundreds of observers and military liason officers we currently have on site learning Ukraine and Russian combat tactics and strategies.
Dmitry Medvedev wants 'maximum reward' bounty for NATO troops in Ukraine
In a social-media outburst on Thursday, Medvedev advocated for a "no prisoners taken" approach with NATO troops if any were to be deployed in Ukraine.www.businessinsider.com
He has no career Putin owns him. Even if Putin dies, the blackmail material will go to Putin's man in the KGB. He's not even in the running for successor. There are 15 people after Putin between Medvedev and the crown of TsarHe seems like he's really trying to show how good of a rabid attack dog he is to curry favor even though his political career is basically stalled out.
Today, RussiaNoContext channel published a video from the phone of the Russian military, who filmed the first consequences after the explosion of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant and rejoiced at this act of ecocide against Ukraine.
As a reminder, the terrorist explosion of the Kakhovka HPP was carried out by the Russian occupation forces, the Russian Federation military from the 205th Separate Mechanized Brigade, at about 2:50 am on June 6, 2023.
This war crime resulted in a large-scale environmental disaster. On the day of this tragedy, #OSINT researchers of the international intelligence community InformNapalm conducted preliminary estimates of the scale and stated (t.me/informnapalm/1...) that the environmental and economic consequences of the destruction of the Kakhovka HPP for Ukraine can be equated to the consequences of using tactical nuclear weapons of 5-10 kilotons. According to the Geneva Convention (Article 56 (ips.ligazakon.net/document/MU770...) of Additional Protocol I of 1977), the destruction of dams is a war crime and can be equated to the use of weapons of mass destruction.
Video from inside the Russia unit that blew Kakhovka Dam, showing the destruction just after the blast.
Normal soviet propaganda,they did the same during WW2 - only american press supported their lies then.Well, looks like they're not censoring that anymore. The Official Russian statement is that the Ukrainian artillery blew up the dam.
Another "genius" from Biden admin caught in the open, spreading leftist idiocy on how to wage war:
I think they want their next source of green energy to be LeMay rolling in his grave.
Correction the people in charge of the Democrats never wanted that, they want what's going to happen in the coming years (ethnic replacement and everything not owned by the Russians in the hands of western capital) no matter what the people there think. They made a deal with the mafia in charge of the west and are going to see firsthand how the people in charge of the west treat they're friends.Another proof,that demorats never wanted Ukraine victory.And,what they really want is another deal with Moscov,like in 1945.