United States University to remove World War II murals because they show too many white people

Sure. But the main point is POC feels in said argument thread. Which can frankly be expanded to everything like the very existence of the US, the founders, etc.

And MY main point is that there are good reasons to remove confederate statues, while there are no good reasons to remove the WWII-era murals (other than, as you so eloquently described, "feels", which is not a good reason). So the two can't be compared.

Why are there statues dedicated to enemies of America in the US anyway? Will there be a Bin-Laden and Suleimani statue?
 
And MY main point is that there are good reasons to remove confederate statues, while there are no good reasons to remove the WWII-era murals (other than, as you so eloquently described, "feels", which is not a good reason). So the two can't be compared.

Why are there statues dedicated to enemies of America in the US anyway? Will there be a Bin-Laden and Suleimani statue?
You are not getting it at all. Its not about the Confederate statues. Its the precedent of letting the left take down statues. The left reasoning for wanting the statues down is POCs feelings are hurt, muh slavery, muh oppression, etc. All these things can also be said of the US founders, US itself and WW2 murals. And what are they doing now? Exactly what I said they would do. Now that they have their victory over the Confederate statues, its time to move on and take down the founders and WW2 murals.

You can't argue against them cause they will use the same reasoning they used against the Confederates. Reasonings you have already legitimized by agreeing to them for the Confederates.
 
And MY main point is that there are good reasons to remove confederate statues, while there are no good reasons to remove the WWII-era murals (other than, as you so eloquently described, "feels", which is not a good reason). So the two can't be compared.

Why are there statues dedicated to enemies of America in the US anyway? Will there be a Bin-Laden and Suleimani statue?
Your point is proven false by the objective reality of what's happening. Seriously what your saying shouldn't matter is exactly what's happening. You and bacles issue is that you are giving the left the benefit of the doubt. While believing it's actually about the lost cause mythos. Thing is though it's not and they are currently as I type this proving that. Tell me what's WW2 got to do with the lost cause? How about Frederick Douglass, an elk etc etc. Sorry your flaty wrong "remove Confederate" has always been about destroying history. Not about "redressing" grievances that's the reality.
 
Your point is proven false by the objective reality of what's happening. Seriously what your saying shouldn't matter is exactly what's happening. You and bacles issue is that you are giving the left the benefit of the doubt. While believing it's actually about the lost cause mythos. Thing is though it's not and they are currently as I type this proving that. Tell me what's WW2 got to do with the lost cause? How about Frederick Douglass, an elk etc etc. Sorry your flaty wrong "remove Confederate" has always been about destroying history. Not about "redressing" grievances that's the reality.

To begin with, I doubt ANTIFA & BLM are in anyway legitimately angered by these Confederate statues

Hell, they're just gonna make stuff up to even justify tearing down statues with nothing to do with the Confederates
 
To begin with, I doubt ANTIFA & BLM are in anyway legitimately angered by these Confederate statues

Hell, they're just gonna make stuff up to even justify tearing down statues with nothing to do with the Confederates
Anger has jack all to do with well anything. Part of communism is removing a given people's actual history. That they can and should take pride in then replacing if with guilt and envy. Depending on whether your "bourgeoisie" or "proletariat". (White and black with neo-commy). The so called anger is just a cover.
 
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And MY main point is that there are good reasons to remove confederate statues, while there are no good reasons to remove the WWII-era murals (other than, as you so eloquently described, "feels", which is not a good reason). So the two can't be compared.

Why are there statues dedicated to enemies of America in the US anyway? Will there be a Bin-Laden and Suleimani statue?
I will give my two bit's and say objectively you aren't wrong, but it isn't the fact that most people like, love or even care about the Confederacy these days that they defend these statues, it's the reasoning behind the philosophy of those who want their removal.

Understand at first with them it's the understandable "The lost cause is bad" isn't untrue, but then after that they say "But Slavery is bad" and then insist that every founding father's name be erased if they so much as layed eyes on a slave then finally it's "Republican's are racist" and they insist every mention of Reagan's name from textbooks be struck from them.

It isn't about the statues but the meaning behind their replacement.
 
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Anger has jack all to o with well anything. Part of communism is removing a given people's actual history. That they can and should take pride in then replacing if eith guilt and envy. Depending on whether your "bourgeoisie" or "proletariat". (White and black with neo-commy). The so called anger is just a cover.

Yup, I don’t think the majority of them ever truly have anything resembling “hate”

Hell I’m pretty sure most of these guys already very much don’t get along with your actual working class and want THEM quickly replaced with migrants from countries that have more “underdog” points due to being “minorities” and such

Closest thing they would have to hate is jealousy and sheer condescending disapproval

Lots of this stuff is all more-or-less connected

I can bet that those guys who #MeToo’d Vic Mignogna and got him fired and are SJW themselves, also rather jealous of his success and embittered by the fact that he’s a Social Conservative and thus not even part of their sort of political cliques

The various fans of multiple forms of entertainment are those who “Just want to grill” and/or enjoy entertainment they deem “Fascist” or “evil” and thus they find themselves having to deal with an increasingly politicized hobby and guys on say subreddits and forums and tumblr bullying em when they disagree

If they do have HATE though, it will be directed at those who’ve resisted them, like Trump

Remember these guys are very much like sociopaths, as such they love the following attention(mostly praise) and dominance. People who can tell them off or worse, outright ignore them will make them pissed.
 
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Carl that shit works until the day it doesn't.

When SJWs prompt a preference cascade against themselves and they will do it because they are over bearing psychopathic assholes. It will be swift and over whelming. Because like you said for all of the talk about hate they do? They really dont understand it, really do not understand just how much shit they will be when they truely earn the peoples hate.

And when that day comes the democrats will gift them over to the mob and let them be destroyed as scape goats.
 
Carl that shit works until the day it doesn't.

When SJWs prompt a preference cascade against themselves and they will do it because they are over bearing psychopathic assholes. It will be swift and over whelming. Because like you said for all of the talk about hate they do? They really dont understand it, really do not understand just how much shit they will be when they truely earn the peoples hate.

And when that day comes the democrats will gift them over to the mob and let them be destroyed as scape goats.
Sure but that doesn't stop the damage they already did. Plus I think they've got alot more juice then you think. If (yes if not when) they burn out it'll have been 20+ years minimum. Sitting back and letting them hang themselves is a serious mistake.
 
I meant as far as admin and moderation goes, unless we want to lose yet another space to far left subversion? That 'peaceful acceptance' crap is going to see all of us banned for 'hate speech' one day and then we will have to go to another forum. I remember when sb was rightwing as fuck..........until it wasn't.
SB wasn't founded on free speech. TS was
 
Sure but that doesn't stop the damage they already did. Plus I think they've got alot more juice then you think. If (yes if not when) they burn out it'll have been 20+ years minimum. Sitting back and letting them hang themselves is a serious mistake.

This is true and pushing back against them is important, but the fact is that 20 years plus? They have already used up a good chunk of it. Their actions are not the actions of some one who's confident their the actions of some one whos riding a tiger and is panicking. So stick in there, keep resisting and get ready for a long fight.

Because when the day of victory comes its going to be sweet.
 
This is true and pushing back against them is important, but the fact is that 20 years plus? They have already used up a good chunk of it. Their actions are not the actions of some one who's confident their the actions of some one whos riding a tiger and is panicking. So stick in there, keep resisting and get ready for a long fight.

Because when the day of victory comes its going to be sweet.
Fights not over till it's over there's 0 reason to stop swinging. Because even assuming your right they will absolutely be back. They always are even Rome was plagued with left wing ideas. Better to hurt the guy as much as possible. Then bust his head wife open when he's down. That way when they come back and they will. They're easier to beat into a bloody pulp.
 
Failure as a parent is failure as a human. There's no difference

Now that I think about it, those sociopaths in a way, like trying to behave as if they're "parents" to people

They like pretending everybody else is an immature child for them to influence and/or punish and be condescending or even get pissed at them when they stand up to them when they notice they're doing something wrong and stupid

If they're parents, I am very sure a good portion would be like that bitch who left her infant child at home alone to attend a BLM riot and wreck shit

The very physically and psychologically abusive kind of "parents" you would be scared to be stuck in the house with
 
SB wasn't founded on free speech. TS was
Being founded on and remaining supportive of are two different things. Things can change, just look at the first amendment today. We have 'freedom of speech' just not on 'private' platforms. Build your own and it gets popular? Well time to build your own payment processor,etc

The left is good at ignoring the spirit of things and subverting by degrees. The first amendment still stands but you can see with all the bannings,censorship,deplatforming and outright violence toward 'wrong thinkers' that the first has been damaged quite heavily. If this site gets popular enough then far lefties will undoubtedly try for moderator spots and/or rule changes. "oh no this is so offensive and terrible, can't we just ban this one little thing?'' becomes ''everything to the right of marx is evil alt right nazi speak'' becomes ''suck the girl cock bigot''.
 
Being founded on and remaining supportive of are two different things. Things can change, just look at the first amendment today. We have 'freedom of speech' just not on 'private' platforms. Build your own and it gets popular? Well time to build your own payment processor,etc

The left is good at ignoring the spirit of things and subverting by degrees. The first amendment still stands but you can see with all the bannings,censorship,deplatforming and outright violence toward 'wrong thinkers' that the first has been damaged quite heavily. If this site gets popular enough then far lefties will undoubtedly try for moderator spots and/or rule changes. "oh no this is so offensive and terrible, can't we just ban this one little thing?'' becomes ''everything to the right of marx is evil alt right nazi speak'' becomes ''suck the girl cock bigot''.

Honestly while I agree with you that infiltration can happen, just look at r/Libertarian, I think the Psychohistory being used here needs to deal with some additional factors like whether or not the Far Left can pretend to be sane again or not too obviously smug and whether or not the people here have the same weaknesses as the nerds who lacked a "Strong Cultural Identity" and were ashamed of what they liked and themselves and sort of wanted to be mainstream/respected and also could cave to pressure better

That said, maybe a new thread should be made for this, just in-case
 
Being founded on and remaining supportive of are two different things. Things can change, just look at the first amendment today. We have 'freedom of speech' just not on 'private' platforms. Build your own and it gets popular? Well time to build your own payment processor,etc

The left is good at ignoring the spirit of things and subverting by degrees. The first amendment still stands but you can see with all the bannings,censorship,deplatforming and outright violence toward 'wrong thinkers' that the first has been damaged quite heavily. If this site gets popular enough then far lefties will undoubtedly try for moderator spots and/or rule changes. "oh no this is so offensive and terrible, can't we just ban this one little thing?'' becomes ''everything to the right of marx is evil alt right nazi speak'' becomes ''suck the girl cock bigot''.
I mean I am pretty sure we have a good 20 years before anything bad starts happening, as the Owner will most likely prevent that
Honestly while I agree with you that infiltration can happen, just look at r/Libertarian, I think the Psychohistory being used here needs to deal with some additional factors like whether or not the Far Left can pretend to be sane again or not too obviously smug and whether or not the people here have the same weaknesses as the nerds who lacked a "Strong Cultural Identity" and were ashamed of what they liked and themselves and sort of wanted to be mainstream/respected and also could cave to pressure better

That said, maybe a new thread should be made for this, just in-case
Agreed
 
Bacle is wrong on the statues but dude is not a communist infiltratior don't smear him as such. We can disagree without painting people as supporters of that evil ideology. Seriously don't
I reread my comment and realized that it probably came across the wrong way. That was unintentional on my part, sorry about that.
Honestly while I agree with you that infiltration can happen, just look at r/Libertarian, I think the Psychohistory being used here needs to deal with some additional factors like whether or not the Far Left can pretend to be sane again or not too obviously smug and whether or not the people here have the same weaknesses as the nerds who lacked a "Strong Cultural Identity" and were ashamed of what they liked and themselves and sort of wanted to be mainstream/respected and also could cave to pressure better

That said, maybe a new thread should be made for this, just in-case
While i would like to think they would reveal themselves early on. Relying on an enemies stupidity never sat well with me. These people are smart,patient and utterly fanatic. The culture here is relatively sane and hostile to far leftism thankfully, though i would feel better with more concrete plans and rules guaranteeing various freedoms and moderator 'security'. Agreed on the need for a thread though i don't know what it could be called?
I mean I am pretty sure we have a good 20 years before anything bad starts happening, as the Owner will most likely prevent that
It took a handful of years for google to go nuts, i wish i had that confidence bro.
 
Agreed on the need for a thread though i don't know what it could be called?

Yuri Berezmenov: Forum Edition

You know guys, I think there’s a chance that multiple universities will find themselves broke due to the lack of students at some point

COVID-19 aside, I think people might see college as too expensive both in time and money and will prefer Trade Schools or even learning from How-To-Books and online stuff instead

Not to mention being too scared of possibly dealing with these crazies on-campus
 
There is nothing you can learn at college that you can't learn from a dedicated amateur on YouTube... FOR FREE.

The only redeeming value of in college is in the networking, and even then barely.

Idiots LOVE those diplomas and PHDs as proof that some idiot’s gonna be a genius employee or even a manager

They don’t necessarily even actually speak or your on-the-job skills and experience
 

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