AI/Automation Megathread

Blasterbot

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So this is actually a serious issue for Tesla to address, and is a downside of being so fucking durable. Some sort of fix needs to be added for this.
I thought what you are supposed to do in that situation was take a deep breath when the car is filling up to let the pressure equalize inside and outside the car so you can open the door.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
I thought what you are supposed to do in that situation was take a deep breath when the car is filling up to let the pressure equalize inside and outside the car so you can open the door.
Yes, if possible, that is the main option, but people really have to be trained to do that if they want to successfully survive scenario's like this.
 

hyperspacewizard

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so suno v3 is an ai music generator it’s getting super good
here you go mess around with it and heres a video on it as well some streamers have been messing with it so you might want to look those up too


Here’s a metal instrumental song they said was created by suno

 

hyperspacewizard

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Yay! Infinite fuckin drum solo with infinite fuckin skulls. I tried Suno V2 with various prompts, it was on par for AI. Which is to say, that a middle-school drop out from New Hampshire could have done better. Fucking Hampters.
Here maybe some of these are more to you tastes






like it isn’t perfect but if you play with it enough you can get some crazy good stuff


on a separate note I guess grok is going open source
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
Suno AI V3 is quite capable, and can handle all sorts of different genres.

I'm sure @hyperspacewizard and @Blasterbot would get a kick out of this. By entering individual phonemes, I was able to get it to sing in a constructed language from my MLP fanfic. By inputting "Celtic Punk Rock, Bar Music, Arena Rock, Chorus, Funny, Jovial" as the prompt, I even got it to do a goddamn Dropkick Murphys parody, ffs. :ROFLMAO:

Here's a little sample of the "soundtrack" I put together:

Dragoon War Chant:



Hail Mary:



Rock Paper Scissors Charger:



Storm the Slayer:



Trust in Twilight:

 

hyperspacewizard

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Suno AI V3 is quite capable, and can handle all sorts of different genres.

I'm sure @hyperspacewizard and @Blasterbot would get a kick out of this. By entering individual phonemes, I was able to get it to sing in a constructed language from my MLP fanfic. By inputting "Celtic Punk Rock, Bar Music, Arena Rock, Chorus, Funny, Jovial" as the prompt, I even got it to do a goddamn Dropkick Murphys parody, ffs. :ROFLMAO:
very cool was it first try for most of them or did you have to roll the dice a bunch?
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
very cool was it first try for most of them or did you have to roll the dice a bunch?
A bit of both. With some, an ideal set of starting point stems popped out after one roll. With others, it was more like ten rolls plus. Also, in some cases, to get a more consistent song structure, I'd pop the clips into FL and clip/crossfade them together to stitch together different gens.

Their web UI is extremely threadbare. Some features I wish they'd add:
  • Splitting stems (drums, guitar, vocals, etc.) into individual tracks.
  • Editing clips online without having to throw them into an audio editor.
  • Higher-quality export. 192 MP3s? Suck. I want raw .wav files (or at least 320 MP3s or FLACs) and I don't care if they have to add a transfer cap to make it happen.
  • The ability to set a consistent root key, and perhaps to use a piano roll to create your own melody.
  • Saving custom prompts.
  • Tons of other QOL odds and ends.
More stuff from the same project! Can it do post-hardcore/screamo? Yes, it can:

Devil's Checkmate:



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Black as the night,
the Devil's delight,
rockets streak,
bury the freak,

Pummel them all into the next week,

Sunder the earth,
for what it's worth,
send them their fate,
with primal hate,

Show no remorse,
the Devil's Checkmate,

Send them their fate,
with primal hate,

Show no remorse,
the Devil's Checkmate

What about straight-up solo percussion? Well, yes:

Made Man:



Marching themes? Yes, it can do that (the voiceovers on this, I generated separately):

With Strong Sinews:



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[Spoken - Layer Cake]

Well, come on, then. Let's get you hench.

[Spoken - Desert Storm]

Wh... what?

[Spoken - Layer Cake]

Oh, how do you lot say it? Ripped. Yoked. Buff as a yak. Take it from me, all that talk of earth pony strength is bollocks. Anypony can get that strong, even soft little unicorns like you. The only thing you need to do is commit.

[Song]

Reborn anew - our last brigade - a mare beyond despair,

With strong sinews you can be remade,
a warrior without compare,

Reborn anew in our last brigade,
a mare beyond despair,

Reborn anew in our last brigade,
a mare beyond despair,

[Spoken - Desert Storm]

Where the fuck is that music coming from?!

[Song]

Trials and tribulations,
dogging our heels every day,
wicked alien monsters,
who see us as their prey,

Cultivate inner strength,
revel in the power that you gained,
rise up on your hooves,
and keep your body trained,

Cultivate inner strength,
revel in the power that you gained,
rise up on your hooves,
and keep your body trained,

[Spoken - Desert Storm]

I... I'm sweating my cunt off.

[Spoken - Layer Cake]

That just means it's working, Sergeant.

[Song]

It's not enough to annoy us,
they want to completely destroy us,
and dance on our bones,
and live in our homes,
and keep us as pets,
are you tired of it yet,

We are better than them,
in every conceivable way,
we're stronger, smarter, and faster,
and we are here to stay,

We are better than them,
in every conceivable way,
we're stronger, smarter, and faster,
and we are here to stay,

With strong sinews you-you can be remade,
a warrior without compare,

Reborn anew in our last brigade,
a mare beyond despair

[Spoken - Desert Storm]

A little pony-supremacist, don't you think?

I asked myself "Can I use this to do a 20-minute long Jesu/Godflesh-like Sludge/Doom thing?" The answer to that question is yes, very much so. Maximum Edginess Engaged:

Feral:



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My hate is justified by what you did to me,
what made you think you'd get away free,

Leave me black and blue and shivering in pain,
on shaking legs I'll stand and rise again,

You're proud of your evil steeped in betrayal,
I'm the one destined to make you fail,

Beat me and break me at your own peril,
your cruel designs have made me go feral,

Cruel design to make you go,

You will break me at your own peril,

You're cruel,

I'm not the Twilight Sparkle that you know,
she had limits to how low she would go,

I will drag your name through the mud,
and sign your surrender to me in blood,

You're proud of your evil steeped in betrayal,
I'm the one destined to make you fail,

Beat me and break me at your own peril,
your cruel designs have made me go feral,

I just want to trust again,
I just want to love again,
you took that from me,
you took away who I was,

I just want to die,
I don't have sociality,

You're proud of your evil,
steeped in wretched betrayal,
I am the one who is destined,
to make you fail,

(Beat me), and your own designs,
have made me go feral,

One way or another,
I will have my vengeance,

My vengeance,
they've wrought,

Celestia forgive them,
they know not,
what it is precisely,
that they've wrought,

You are a part of who I am now,
You are a cancer on my soul,
I can never be rid of you,
I will never be whole

We can go even edgier than that, actually. For this one, I put in the prompt field, "Brutal Mystic Chanting Huge Vocal Chorus, Evil, Satanic, Monstrous, Abominable, Occult, Lovecraftian, Atonal, Percussive", and, well, I got exactly that. Headphone users beware, this has some parts right on the edge of distortion that are pure ear rape:

Ndras Thuax:



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Ndras Thuax,

Kligar bogen,
ittam zogen,

Hawradrah,
hawradrah,

Vingt sanctu kommbe,

Yolm,
Yolm,

Eith eith eith eith,

Yolm,
Yolm,

Teyos bolg,
midus vengun,

Teyos bolg,
midus vengun,

Dekaram,
dekaram,

Yolm, yolm, kuyosha ge manatai,
eith eith eith eith eith eith eith eith genno sessai,

Yolm, yolm, kuyosha ge manatai,

Yolm,

Yolm vengun genno sessai,
Yolm, yolm, kuyosha ge manatai,

Eith eith eith,

Ndras Thuax

Translation:

Hail Thuax,

Mighty demon,
(of) unlimited realms,

Assemble,
assemble,

(the) Holy King comes,

Devour,
devour,

Expel expel expel expel,

Devour,
devour,

Tiny wretches,
(use) magic (to) vie against (us),

Tiny wretches,
(use) magic (to) vie against (us),

Humiliate,
humiliate,

Devour, devour, tear out their souls,
expel expel expel expel expel expel expel expel lonely bones,

Devour, devour, tear out their souls,

Devour,

Devour the lonely bones of their feeble resistance,
Devour, devour, tear out their souls,

Expel expel expel,

Hail Thuax
 
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hyperspacewizard

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Yeah it’ll be a pretty good feature if you could have all the different instruments and vocals separated. Really where I think it should go is like how photoshop has the ai integrated into its system something like suno should be a new feature in music editing software so you could also make manually adjustements easier.
 

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
Yeah it’ll be a pretty good feature if you could have all the different instruments and vocals separated. Really where I think it should go is like how photoshop has the ai integrated into its system something like suno should be a new feature in music editing software so you could also make manually adjustements easier.
Suno would be AMAZING as a VST instrument that generates samples on command and plunks them right into your tracks in your DAW. Basically, an infinite sample library.

It doesn't just do English. It does everything. You can put in Japanese Kanji, Polish, German, whatever, and Suno will sing them. This damn thing is surreal.

 

hyperspacewizard

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I can hear the gathering shrieks of horror as singers, like artists, realize that instead of the AI revolution making all those filthy blue-collar workers obsolete, it will be THEM are made redundant.
I mean if you think about it from a certain point of view aren’t singers just another musical instrument for songwriters and producers to make what’s in their heads a reality.

I mean most of the super big singers don’t even write their own stuff anymore right? or am I mistaken on that point?
 

DarthOne

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I mean if you think about it from a certain point of view aren’t singers just another musical instrument for songwriters and producers to make what’s in their heads a reality.

I mean most of the super big singers don’t even write their own stuff anymore right? or am I mistaken on that point?

I believe you are correct across the board
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I can hear the gathering shrieks of horror as singers, like artists, realize that instead of the AI revolution making all those filthy blue-collar workers obsolete, it will be THEM that are made redundant.
AI may be able to replace a lot of mid and low-tier mediocre music, but the thing that makes for #1 hits isn't just technical competency, it's the passion and emotional investment of the singer in what they're engaging with.

Hatsune Miku has been around for more than a decade, and while 'she' has fans, she's not come even close to threatening the chart toppers. If deliberate engineered artificial performance can't do it, it's highly unlikely that easier to use but less precise artificial performances will be able to pull it off.

Visual art is probably the place that AI will most easily threaten human creatives, due to how 'surface' the impression and appreciation for purely visual art can be. Even then, with the 'good' AI art tools being out for over a year now, it's not like better artists have stopped finding work, like people stopped enjoying particular styles of art like what Centurii-chan makes, etc. In the long run, that might get shrunk down more, but it remains to be seen.


When an AI, without needing to directly base it off of a human singer's actual performance, can convince a crowd it's singing its heart out about, about a subject that the whole crowd has in common, that's when it'll be a serious threat to singers.
 

Terthna

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AI may be able to replace a lot of mid and low-tier mediocre music, but the thing that makes for #1 hits isn't just technical competency, it's the passion and emotional investment of the singer in what they're engaging with.

Hatsune Miku has been around for more than a decade, and while 'she' has fans, she's not come even close to threatening the chart toppers. If deliberate engineered artificial performance can't do it, it's highly unlikely that easier to use but less precise artificial performances will be able to pull it off.

Visual art is probably the place that AI will most easily threaten human creatives, due to how 'surface' the impression and appreciation for purely visual art can be. Even then, with the 'good' AI art tools being out for over a year now, it's not like better artists have stopped finding work, like people stopped enjoying particular styles of art like what Centurii-chan makes, etc. In the long run, that might get shrunk down more, but it remains to be seen.


When an AI, without needing to directly base it off of a human singer's actual performance, can convince a crowd it's singing its heart out about, about a subject that the whole crowd has in common, that's when it'll be a serious threat to singers.
"#1 hits" become popular because of marketing; not whatever objective quality they may possess. In fact, many (if not most) chart toppers are completely bereft of any sort of passion or emotional investment from anyone involved in their creation; which usually involves song writers, market analysts, sound engineers, choreographers, and dozens of other professions beyond just the singer who's paid to perform the final product. Because that's what it amounts to in the end; a product, meant to be sold and then quickly forgotten in favor of the next product.
 

mrttao

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"#1 hits" become popular because of marketing; not whatever objective quality they may possess. In fact, many (if not most) chart toppers are completely bereft of any sort of passion or emotional investment from anyone involved in their creation; which usually involves song writers, market analysts, sound engineers, choreographers, and dozens of other professions beyond just the singer who's paid to perform the final product. Because that's what it amounts to in the end; a product, meant to be sold and then quickly forgotten in favor of the next product.
Very true.

A simple mathematic formula could be used to determine the popularity of such a product:
Purchases = Exposure * Appeal

Appeal is what % of people, when they heard it, buy it.
Quality is one of the factors there. Having entire teams design this product lowers its soul / genuineness, and quality. But raises some other aspects of its appeal.

But at the end of the day, it is far easier to mess with the exposure. Through monopolistic practices the record labels control the radio waves.

A small band might be the best band in the world. But they play at a bar and get an exposure of a few hundred people.
Meanwhile one of those products is pushed to hundreds of millions of listeners.
Even if the appeal is vastly worse it would just do better via sheer exposure.

But as mentioned, the appeal is not vastly worse. Thanks to all the other aspects that are worked on by those professionals.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
"#1 hits" become popular because of marketing; not whatever objective quality they may possess. In fact, many (if not most) chart toppers are completely bereft of any sort of passion or emotional investment from anyone involved in their creation; which usually involves song writers, market analysts, sound engineers, choreographers, and dozens of other professions beyond just the singer who's paid to perform the final product. Because that's what it amounts to in the end; a product, meant to be sold and then quickly forgotten in favor of the next product.
I'll grant that #1 hits probably aren't a very good metric, because it's just 'whatever is best among what's new lately.' I have a generally low opinion of most 'pop' music that cropped up in the last 10-11 years, and few to no people seem to remember it long after it's gone.

Songs with enduring appeal though, go beyond just being #1s.

Journey's 'Don't Stop Believing' is not something an AI would have gotten you.

Creed's 'Higher'

'Africa' by Toto.

'Stairway to Heaven.'

'Ain't No Mountain High enough.'

Going further back,

Beethoven's 9th.

Holst's Suite of the Planets.

Stravinsky's Firebird.


The music that truly stands out over time is pretty much always stuff that had profound passion poured into it. There's any number of earworms and 'catchy tune that touches surface-level feels' that are popular in their time, but fade away and are forgotten fairly quickly, to the point where someone just ten years younger might never have heard of them in spite of being in a similar target audience.

For example, Justin Bieber has pretty much completely disappeared, Rebecca Black is already a 'literally who?' to younger people, and I can't remember the last time I heard the Backstreet Boys or any of their songs even mentioned.

AI with more improvements could probably invade the 'catchy earworm' space, but I don't think it's ever going to be able to edge out music made by people who really put their hearts into it.
 

mrttao

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I'll grant that #1 hits probably aren't a very good metric, because it's just 'whatever is best among what's new lately.' I have a generally low opinion of most 'pop' music that cropped up in the last 10-11 years, and few to no people seem to remember it long after it's gone.

Songs with enduring appeal though, go beyond just being #1s.

Journey's 'Don't Stop Believing' is not something an AI would have gotten you.

Creed's 'Higher'

'Africa' by Toto.

'Stairway to Heaven.'

'Ain't No Mountain High enough.'

Going further back,

Beethoven's 9th.

Holst's Suite of the Planets.

Stravinsky's Firebird.


The music that truly stands out over time is pretty much always stuff that had profound passion poured into it. There's any number of earworms and 'catchy tune that touches surface-level feels' that are popular in their time, but fade away and are forgotten fairly quickly, to the point where someone just ten years younger might never have heard of them in spite of being in a similar target audience.

For example, Justin Bieber has pretty much completely disappeared, Rebecca Black is already a 'literally who?' to younger people, and I can't remember the last time I heard the Backstreet Boys or any of their songs even mentioned.

AI with more improvements could probably invade the 'catchy earworm' space, but I don't think it's ever going to be able to edge out music made by people who really put their hearts into it.
Classics are literally the polar opposite of pop music. Yes.
 

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