Food Pyramid Is A Pyramid Scam (or how USDA poisons you)

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist



Essentially? Forget all that stuff about bad meat, bad fat and good carbs.

Real food pyramid is:
Fat
Calcium
Integral Grains
Protein (Meat, Fish, Eggs)
Fruits and Vegetables (especially leafy)
 
honestly and this is going to be a cop out answer. It depends on what you view as the meaning of life and what you want to get out of it.

Another factor to the obesity epidemic is portion sizes. 99% of human history has been "famine with spurts of feasting." Heck, even the lords prayer says "Give us this day our daily bread" People lived on skeletal physiology. It has its drawbacks, just as modern eating habits. Do I've actually heard it argued before that now food is TOO plentiful now and there are not enough starving times to prevent a build-up of excess calories. I'm sure our ancestors would look at us like we were mad if we said such things.
 
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honestly and this is going to be a cop out answer. It depends on what you view as the meaning of life and what you want to get out of it.

Another factor to the obesity epidemic is portion sizes. 99% of human history has been "famine with spurts of feasting." Heck, even the lords prayer says "Give us this day our daily bread" People lived on skeletal physiology. It had its drawbacks, but so does modern eating habits. I've actually heard it argued before that now food is TOO plentiful now and there are not enough starving times to prevent a build up of excess calories. Which I'm sure our ancestors would look at us like we were made if we said such things.

I will go ahead and add, that being that I don't have a time machine I can't say for certain what would be the better time period for me to live in. Sure heart attacks, suck, but so do Smallpox bubonic plague, and starvation-based diseases.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist


What underlies the war on fat? It's big business, wanting us all to eat more refined carbs and sugar to replace the fat calories that we've been instructed to reduce. And I can think of no one who has done more to open our eyes to this ongoing travesty than Nina Teicholz. Here's more about her from her website:

Nina Teicholz is an investigative science journalist and leader in nutrition reporting who is challenging the conventional wisdom on dietary fat–particularly, whether saturated fat causes heart disease and whether fat really makes you fat. The New York Times bestselling author of The Big Fat Surprise. Teicholz also serves as Executive Director of The Nutrition Coalition, an independent non-profit group that promotes evidence-based nutrition policy. She is one of a new generation of researchers arguing that diets lower in carbohydrates are a scientifically sound approach for reversing nutrition-related diseases.

For more than half a century, we've been told to eat a diet high in grains, low in fat, saturated fat (and cholesterol), but the last two decades of research have led a growing number of scientists to conclude that this diet, despite being rigorously tested, could never be shown to prevent any kind of disease.

Teicholz's work also explains why this diet has remained official policy for so long: the roles played by crusading scientists, the food industry, and more.

The story is as much about politics as it is about science, and Nina Teicholz's research ultimately confirms that the traditional foods we were told to abandon (meat, cheese, eggs, butter) are safe, and even good for health.

Nina Teicholz has been called "The Rachel Carson of the nutrition movement." Her book has been called a "must read" by some of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, including The Lancet, The BMJ, and the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

In speaking about Nina, the immediate past-president of the World Heart Federation, said at the Davos Cardiology Update Davos (2017) "She shook up the nutrition world, but she was right."

Please enjoy this compelling interview with one of my personal heroes.

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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
3:30 Contradictions in the Plant-based movement
10:02 Who funds the Food Pyramid
15:59 The Carbs & Fats Debate
22:36 Debunking Keto Myths
27:07 Debating Dr. David Katz
33:37 Answering Keto Questions
40:03 White House Conference on Nutrition
48:08 Conclusion
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Nina Teicholz is a science journalist and author of the New York Times bestseller, The Big Fat Surprise, which upended the conventional wisdom on dietary fat–especially saturated fat and seed oils. Teicholz is also the founder of the Nutrition Coalition, a nonprofit working to ensure that nutrition policy reflects the best and most current science. Teicholz has appeared on most major TV networks, and her work has been published in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, the Economist, as well as in academic journals including The BMJ and the journal of the National Academy of Sciences. She is a graduate of Stanford and Oxford Universities and is now author of the "Unsettled Science" column hosted on Substack.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
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I can give an anecdote here.

I did a strict, no cheating, carnivore diet for 8 months. My only carbs were those that were in the dairy products I'd consume. The primary source of calories was animal fats. The only non animal ingredients I was consuming were the seasonings I would use on the meat. And even then, I didn't use seasonings that had sugar in it. Mostly salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder and other herbs.

I ate meat, organs, cheese, and other dairy to a limited degree.

Cooked the meat in lard, tallow, butter, etc.

I didn't count calories. Just ate until I felt satisfied. I lost 40 pounds, doctors never had a bad thing to say about my blood work. (No I don't remember the numbers)

I felt pretty good with it, too. I also kept off the weight when I stopped.

I was able to lower blood pressure enough to come off the medication, and I had 20% PVCs in my heart rhythm, I lowered that to under 1%.

I got back on limited carbs for three reasons: I like the taste, and it gives me a performance boost in the gym, and carbs are an important nutrient for muscle hypertrophy. It's not ALL about protein.

That said, these days I probably have like 1/4th to 1/3rd the amount of carbs as the standard American. Not enough to fall into keto diet territory, but not nearly as much as your average person. I feel fucking great.
 
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Largo

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I'm not going to watch the video so maybe it addresses it, but I'm 95% sure that the food pyramid as many of us think about it and as seems to be in that video is in fact incredibly outdated. I certainly haven't seen it in any school I've supervised recently.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
I'm not going to watch the video so maybe it addresses it, but I'm 95% sure that the food pyramid as many of us think about it and as seems to be in that video is in fact incredibly outdated. I certainly haven't seen it in any school I've supervised recently.
Not outdated. Just wrong. It was propaganda intended to prop up certain sectors of the food economy.
 

Typhonis

Well-known member
Not outdated. Just wrong. It was propaganda intended to prop up certain sectors of the food economy.
Either propaganda or they outright paid for it with money.

Fun fact cheese was seen as a substitute for meat in olden times and since most people had a cow they could make it.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
I'm not going to watch the video so maybe it addresses it, but I'm 95% sure that the food pyramid as many of us think about it and as seems to be in that video is in fact incredibly outdated. I certainly haven't seen it in any school I've supervised recently.
It is not outdated, it is wrong. Intentionally so. And it has not been removed, but merely "updated" into the "food pie" which looks different but is just as wrong.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
Low fat diet is literally genocide:

Turns out, "bacon and eggs" breakfast is far healthier than any USDA recommendations.

Eggs do help tone down the excessive cravings in the morning, as I found out to my surprise. It saved from having to purchase fat burning pills.

That being said, a good balance of meat and veggies would be ideal. I can never understand this whole vegan craze on the other hand though.
 
*looks up intermediate fasting.*

So food is the enemy?

Cause the impression I get is "Eat 2-3 big feasts of week." while forgoing food the rest of the week."

Never would have thought we'd get to this point.
 
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