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The idea evolutionary theory is threat to religion only exist in the heads of people who take the timelines of any holy text or scroll or book or shaman literally. Instead of, you know, being a massive, multi-millennia game of telephone and retelling of natural events with unknowable details...

Judge Holmes's definition is much more relevant to the modern day, and there is a reason that religion got the boot from public schools after the fight against evolutionary theory and the legacy of what they did to early scientists who challenged church dogma. The difference between the...

I know what religious authoritarians are like because I've had/have family along those lines, who think the biggest problem with US schools is that they don't teach the Bible as part of the curriculum and that 'Taking god out of schools was where America went wrong'. One of my own grandmothers...

You wanted to start a 'discussion' around an esoteric and rather uncommon definition of 'liberty', while pretending the modern definition is just 'wrong/bad' and got huffy when I said I had never seen nor heard liberty defined the way you have, and that your definition is useless for the modern...

No, I just point out that a lot of the assumptions you make about historical education in US schools is something based around 'Traditional conservative' world views of the modern day. And again, that definition is not the definition of liberty that the majority of the populace works off of...

I know the civics history of the US and the connection to the Magna Carta and the Iroquis Federation, and the stuff taught in US public schools civics classes, plus what is relevant to my politics inquires/views in the modern day. However, no, I never found Tocqueville to be something I cared...

Most of American society has never defined 'liberty' the second way (or more like "freedom to do what I want to my own person and property, so long as it does not infringe on others"), only Tradcons have defined it that way (and I'd never seen it defined that way before you asserted it, so...

Pretty much; authoritarians on both sides are more preeminent than people who openly love liberty and are willing to say that liberty is more important than safety. And the one's who are supposed to value liberty the most "Big L Libertarians" consistently show they view liberty through a...