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  1. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    Ion Storms should be similar, it's just tiberium generated lighting. I don't recall if we see zone trooper hit by it, though. The scrin have a structure that generates an ion storm as a weapon, but I'm not sure if that would be a fair comparison because it's an artificially generated and...
  2. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    That comparison seems to unfairly favor BT, though. In universe for zone troopers, their weapons routinely pierce armor that is far heavier then thier own, including the plating of battle tanks or walkers. Why should we favor battletech's portrayal of it's armor over C&C's portrayal if it's weapons?
  3. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    If you want to go by stats, then AP gauss rifles do extra damage to infantry, including battle armor, once again pointing to their ability to penetrate that same armor. That said, going purely by game stats, particularly battletech's extremely dubious interpretation of armor, will not get you...
  4. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    Um....no? They are explictly and implicitly described as being able to penetrate battle armor. That's plain as day. Becouse of thier increased velocity, AP gauss rifle shots can make it through battle armor, unlike conventional needler rounds, which are noted for having poor armor penetration...
  5. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    I don't think that's true. We have data on primitive armor and weapons, the sort of stuff that predated SL era technology and is fluffed as the ultimate evolution of contemporary vehicle armor. It's inefficient, primitive armor only get you about 11 points of armor per ton vs 16 for standard...
  6. Battlegrinder

    Versus Match GDI Zone Trooper/Raider vs Clan Elementals

    I think the GDI trooper have a fairly solid edge in both cases, zone raiders moreso. A zone trooper railgun is supposed to be able to punch clean through bunkers and tank. A clan small laser is not, unless you're firing on the rear armor of a fairly light design it will take several hits to...
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