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  1. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    How many Patriot Battalions are in the Middle East right now?
  2. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Given the U.S. lost those without the USAF fighting this type of fight, that's now the point you think it is... Because the bases contain silos for the missiles, otherwise how would they launch? I get you have no further commentary because you can't argue the point, but you could've just saved...
  3. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Unfortunately for the USAF, the Iranians have demonstrated they can, in fact, shut down air bases for months with even limited attacks. The USAF has never faced this kind of combat, for the record, either. Unfortunately, myself and the audience are capable of reading the links contained with...
  4. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Yes, they need to be in the region before a war, because once a war is declared those bases are destroyed by the Iranians. No, it's actually based on the fact they have multiple underground missile bases. The U.S. and Russia don't have thousands of missile silos because they don't have...
  5. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Given since my last post in here a single UAS was able to avoid all American defenses and then kill or wound almost 50 service members, the list of available copes is steadily dwindling. We now have multiple examples of successful attacks getting through and causing casualties upon U.S. bases at...
  6. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    No, it is not in range nor are any USAF strike assets based there. Thousands. As for your next question, you can park an aircraft carrier on the beach of the Iranian coast and still not reach Tehran with an F-18 or Tomahawk missile. I don't think you realize how massive Iran is in land size...
  7. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    No, I'd imagine they would launch them out of their prepared silos. The U.S. has no missile systems or Air Bases in range, by the way. Or, we could do proper math on this: Each Patriot battery consists of a truck-mounted launching system with eight launchers that can hold up to four missile...
  8. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Or, they could just use the 3,000 they already have: Iran's missile arsenal is the largest and most diverse in the Middle East. In 2022, U.S. Central Command's General Kenneth McKenzie stated that Iran possesses "over 3,000" ballistic missiles. This does not include the country's burgeoning...
  9. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Is that why there was WIA and the base was severely damaged?
  10. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    And then, equally, you fire more missiles relative to the amount of Patriots you're facing. Iranian ballistic missiles are much cheaper than Patriot systems, after all. Except for the fact you can destroy American logistics, Air bases and other fixed targets, thus denying the U.S. of much of...
  11. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    In other words, all you have to do to defeat a Patriot system is launch roughly 21-37 missiles. Thats the essence of Iranian doctrine with swarm tactics and their missiles; this is what I was talking about in our original conversation so I’m glad you now concede on me being right about that...
  12. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Iraqi militias utilizing ballistic missiles have successfully overwhelmed U.S. manned air defenses in recent base attacks, even defeating the Patriot system via swarm tactics. Can't claim 2019 was a fluke because of Saudi crews anymore:
  13. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    And yet, I still induce you to waste your life replying to me. If I am clown, then you are my biggest joke. So your "mainstream, serious naval experts" was not multiple people as claimed, but actually one guy who was never in the U.S. Navy and who's degree was in aerospace engineering. I...
  14. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    The assessment says exactly as I say it does, it's why you didn't quote anything from it to disprove what I said and immediately switched to name calling. Pointedly, I asked you for sources on their direct capabilities; you failed to provide that. You are only unable to help me because you lack...
  15. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Okay, then what sources are actually valid in your view? Somehow DIA assessments are just calls for more funding, news reports are dismissed, etc; you're essentially seeking to, as I said before, create an unfalsifiable argument. That is by definition bad faith and makes further argument between...
  16. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    More than the United States, no, but relative to where the balance of power was in the 1980s, without a doubt. Iran has developed pretty strong missile capacity, as the DIA notes: To achieve its goals, Iran continues to rely on its unconventional warfare elements and asymmetric capabilities—...
  17. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Praying Mantis was almost 40 years ago; Iran and technology in general have greatly advanced since then. The U.S. Armed Forces did really good at Grenada and in Panama, but then in the 2000s and 2010s lost Iraq and Afghanistan. Except we have the AAR report produced by the Pentagon which shows...
  18. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Sure, but in that case this becomes an unfalsifiable argument, so why are you attempting to argue with me? For what it's worth, I do think the U.S. could win a war against Iran, provided it is willing to tolerate the casualties of such a campaign because Iran is no push over as the post I was...
  19. History Learner

    Middle East News Thread

    Millennium Challenge 2002 did indeed find that Iran would stomp us at those levels, including the loss of a CBG.
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