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agreed. Back to the conversation at hand, disowning is not somthing to be taken lightly and not somthing to be done unless you really are committed to it.

very few things ever happen naturally. Everything is driven by something or someone.

Would this be an enclosed deep web forum if you had your way?

eh, everything seems to have a label nowadays just thought I'd ask.

Makes sense. What do you call someone who is active in thier cynasim. Instead of being passive they play the game to win?

why these two things? What clicked? Was it hatred disgust, curiosity? edit: also you mean your still not like this minus the neutrality and the "consooming"tm?

If they havin't learned the first 15,000 times they will never learn short of a pound of flesh being cut from them. It was not speeches, but violence (Specifically everything being touched to the ground) that changed people's minds. People only react to power and violence.

debating politics is only a valuable skill if you think people can be changed by others. Otherwise moving your mouth (about philosophy) is a wasted energy that could be used for sharpening other skills. Business, combat, ect.

did he self delete or something?

Grew up with them my whole life. I don't know what area you live in but in the deep south that i'm a part of, Vegans are typically looked at as a bunch of hippie communist trash, and the modern environmentalist movement is typically looked at as a big hoax designed to throttle our economy. Oil...

it doesn't help their case especially when at least 2/3 of these are typically things that butt heads directly with American rural conservatism

I wouldn't call you guys normal. However there is a difference between being not normal and being a demon from hell which unfortunately is how many Americancentric religions tended to treat sinners. The problem is I think is like with many a political groups it ceased about accomplishing a cause...

Typically even in Christianity shunning is supposed to be an absolute last resort when all other forms of discpline have failed and someone is still in proud open rebellion, IE Spartan's example of his first sister. So even in righteousness it's not something to be taken lightly or in haste. In...