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Your point was that past civilization doesn't live up to any form of liberalism. My response is, yes, and the modern ones don't either (except neo-liberals but they're ancaps not liberals).

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I refuse to put my teenage opinions into a poor compression algorithm so you can fetch a preconstructed idea of what I think. You already know how stupid it is when people invent new words to say what kind of girl their hypothetically unique personalities make them into, but I'm saying it's the...

All meaningfully powerful human civilizations are also dystopically authoritarian. Civilization is dystopia.