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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I'm not sure you can really say that the current Greeks in any way match the past greeks. So what you are saying is that to beat the cycle, you have to stay that the national nation state forever basically or have something that utterly breaks the paradigm like post-scarcity or something?
  2. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I see. Thanks for the answer. Though your posts here show that even Nation states aren't stable as they are still trapped in the cycle.
  3. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    So what you mean is that for Roman Empire to turn into nation state, they would have to basically let all their territories except for Italy go?
  4. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Could the Roman Empire have transitioned to the Nation stated model and if so, how?
  5. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Oh. I get you now. The locals are the Space Amish. Have to correct you. The Nuclear family is not the traditional setup of family. The Extended family is. The Nuclear family is what came after the Extended family got upended.
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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Interesting. Do you have info showing that religious Europeans are having kids? All I have heard is that Europeans on a whole are losing religion. As for the migrants, yes the arab world birth rate is going down. But the ones going to Europe seem to be the one's who would have kids thus they...
  7. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Gotcha. And anyway, I suspect even if you were him, you wouldn't admit it for safety sake. So, about the birthrate question?
  8. L

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Carl, having high standard of living doesn't mean happiness. Current modernity proves that. And yes, they were going to fail as they didn't reproduce or do anything but decadence and thus aliens could easily crush them. They are very similar to the liberals and SJWs, very quick to call out...
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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Lol, look at this from tvtropes: Crapsaccharine World: Previous books have held up Aurora as a utopian society emblematic of the "superior" Spacer culture. After a relatively brief look on Lije's part demonstrates certainaspects of that culture, he (and likely the reader) comes to the...
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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Didn't the Settlers eventually colonize the galaxy while the spacers died out?
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