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  1. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I don't think Aristotle would agree with this
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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    @Skallagrim doesn't think Persia can build a great civilization anymore but I'm betting on a new Caliphate forming even if it looks more like the EU than the Umayyads. History also rhymes, and the "west" now borders both the Near East but also the far east, thanks to the west coasts of the US...
  3. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I would love to see such a church but it's gonna be a hard sell. It was hard enough keeping Christians united on a single continent now the faith spans the globe.
  4. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I have no idea how this is expected to work, protestantism is kind of anti-clergy or at least anti-one church hierarchy and they are the most powerful from a military and economic standpoint (unless the US somehow breaks catholic.)
  5. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Yeah I agree with this as well, think the problem though is that current economic machines are built around population continuing to grow so either populations do so or the economic elites, be they oligarchs, plutarchs or otherwise, will import a replacement population and thus the civilization...
  6. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Yeah it's definitely a problem of the entire industrial world.
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    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Russias main problem is they just aren't having kids. Everything else is something solvable but until that one stands to take them down to a nation the size of Germany which just won't be able to compete with the US and China in the long run. They could end up a giant Sweden though, with tons...
  8. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    India is historically a lot like post-Rome Europe. They have essentially never been a single civilization but are a cultural spectrum filled with multiple civilizations that compete with one another but unite against common enemies. They have, however, been less successful than Europe at...
  9. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I agree mostly, but it seems hard to make an argument that China (and especially India) is one continuous civilization if we then say Egypt isn't. Yes they are only recently independent from the Islamic empires, thus still contain a lot of that baggage, but that is true also of India and China...
  10. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Chinese civilization descends from Taoism and then Confucianism. Buddhism came much later and only with Chinese characteristics which blended the former two (and I don't know if it ever became the dominant religion.)
  11. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I could actually see it growing instead long term, Pakistan and Bangladesh are parts of India and only exist right now because of British fuckery. With Nationalists gaining power in India they want that Greater India. The only thing that has stood between them has been the US and Pakistani...
  12. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I agree with your general point but think China won't break up but instead the CCP will die giving rise to a new emperor. I could see Xi himself being the start of a dynasty if he plays it right, though really I think he's setting precedents and instead it will be a successor of his (or a...
  13. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    I think he means at some point they are coming for the small towns as well if they aren't stopped in the cities. So better to fight them in the cities.
  14. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Who knows, I'm positive there will be a solar system wide civilization in the next thousand years but others here may be more pessimistic. The modern battle for the US is so important imo because it's the civilization in the best position to lay the foundations for a space fairing society and...
  15. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Or you could be Napoleon, keep that in mind
  16. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    This was mostly not true outside of the political class and definitely outside of Paris. Outside of these groups it was those who rebelled or put forth a different vision that wound up guillotined. But yes, it did happen. Revolutions are dangerous.
  17. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    During the french revolution the only two ways to for sure come out alive were 1. Take power and hold it (very difficult) 2. Stay out of politics
  18. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    We could definitely get back to where we are without coal or oil, assuming we keep the knowledge. The reason the industrial revolution used what it did and went the direction it did was because we didn't even have any real understanding of electromagnetism prior (and a century before we didn't...
  19. Poe

    History Western Civilization, Rome and Cyclical History

    Everything you think you know about Zoroastrianism comes from a thousand years after Xerxes was alive. It also has/had numerous sects not all of which are that deeply monothiestic. No definitely not. His entire conquests rests on Xenophons telling of how the once great Persian empire is now a...
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