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  1. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    Anyone else actually feel a bit... disappointed.. about that?
  2. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    Yes, I think that's a big part of it. The ANC's previous senior leadership was seen as Xhosa-dominated, so they had to do something to pull in the other tribes a bit more.
  3. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    Yeah, don't use Wikipedia for reliable info about anything political. Dunno about them being "leftists" though - depends on how one defines that. Zuma positioned himself more as a traditionalist/populist, and his corrupt rule actually got in the way of the sort of causes American-style...
  4. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    Because they know that it isn't white people. It's a rival faction within the ANC. A faction who were having a great time looting the country and running it all down while Zuma was in office, and want to be able to go on looting and pillaging.
  5. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    Some good is coming out of this - people of all races are working together to clean up the mess. https://www.enca.com/news/shaken-south-africans-clean-after-deadly-unrest The government now believes the rioting was politically organized by the Zuma faction.
  6. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    I'm okay. The rioting seems to be mostly in Kwa-Zulu Natal and Gauteng - ie the Zulu-populated areas. Here in the Western Cape we have our own problems, (like an ongoing gang war between rival minibus taxi companies for example) but not the sort of wholesale mass looting reported from those...
  7. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    As people can see... this is getting racial. Zulus vs the other tribes, and blacks vs other races. In part, because shops and businesses in this country tend to be owned and run by Whites, or Chinese, or Indians, or often Africans from outside of South Africa. I bought a nice leather wallet...
  8. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    But why would you buy something from someone when you could just go and get one for free from the shop?
  9. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    "Could hunger be the cause of the looting?" Zulus don't eat furniture, or electronics. But I certainly think that the economic hardship imposed by the prolonged lockdown is a factor.
  10. Scottty

    South Africa Protests and Riots in Response to Zuma in Jail and Covid and the Economy and so on...

    I don't have the full story myself. It depends on what part of the country we are talking about. But yes, there are riots, and marching, and looting. Always when blacks protest about something, some of them see it as a chance to grab some free loot. From what I understand, yes, it's Zuma...
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