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You're welcome. For what it's worth, I don't think you're an "evil monster"; just incredibly misguided, from my perspective. That said, I suspect we'll be having arguments like this for as long as I'm a member of your forum. Ah well; agree to disagree?

To be honest, I feel the same way about you. I don't think we have a lot of ground in common, and I doubt we ever will. We're just too ideologically opposed to one another.

The heck is "post-Eclipse Pit"? Anyways; I don't really care what you believe. The facts just don't support your delusions.

Simple; because there has never been and never will be one contained by morality. The only thing that can is mutual self-interest. In short, the Landsraad era is a third-world dictatorship by today's standards, because the incentives of those in charge are aligned with very few of their...

Yeah, those "centuries of glory" were probably built atop a mountain of corpses; as they have usually been throughout human history. It is an assumption on my part, but going off of what was in the books; I'd rather be aborted in the machine era, than suffer in the post-machine era.

Do you honestly think you'd have any value in post-machine society in the Dune setting? Most of the factions would have treated you no better, outside of House Atreides; and we both know what happens to them eventually. Jehanna Butler fought for a world that held just as little regard for her...

Bullhonkey; I'd argue it's far, far worse. At least with automation, the human spirit isn't ground under the heels of competing totalitarian dictators, who are as ambitious as they are capricious; not to mention all the corpses such a system demands on a regular basis. If we did have an evil...

And then those men destroyed those machines, and decided to instead enslave themselves to these things: Yeah, that quote loses a lot of impact when you actually sit down and read Dune. The moral of the story is that men will always be slaves to other men; anything else is nothing more than an...