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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    OK. Also, do the Baltic countries go Communist in the early 1920s in this TL?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    And ditto for Finland, I'd presume? You're thinking of the Anglo-French easing the reparations burden on Germany in order to make Germany a stronger bulwark against the USSR and in order to avoid having Germany be too chummy with the USSR, right? Interesting. Sounds very plausible, frankly.
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    @sillygoose I have a question for you: Had the Bolsheviks defeated Poland in 1920, would they have later incorporated Poland into the USSR or made it its own nominally independent Communist country, as they did in 1945? Also, what effect would a Communist Poland starting from 1920 onwards have...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Melno#Provisions
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Their narrow pre-1923 coastline didn't contain a port? Then why not build one from scratch like Poland did with Gdynia?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Well, why did Lithuania make a move on Memel?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    FWIW, Poland was rather restrained in its foreign policy in the interwar era, other than in 1938, of course. It didn't make any moves for Danzig in 1923 like Lithuania did for Memel during the same time, for instance.
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Interesting. Thank you. I wonder if things would have been simpler had Danzig been set to return to Germany in 1940 (after around 20 years) as a part of the original Versailles Treaty. Or would Nazi Germany have still insisted on Poland joining the Anti-Comintern Pact, with Poland still refusing...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    What was Poland's beef with German operations in the Ukrainian SSR? That this could eventually fuel violent Ukrainian separatism in Poland itself?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Having Ukraine in Poland's sphere of influence won't be worth very much without the territory itself due to the extremely totalitarian nature of Communist rule in Ukraine, no? Unless of course the Soviet Union will eventually collapse, but that won't occur until several decades later and wasn't...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Well, then this would require a change in the Soviet mentality in 1920. Interesting. But didn't Poland say that they wouldn't know what to do with such a gift (Ukraine) in their Nazi talks?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    I'll respond to the rest of your post here in a bit, but in regards to this part, I was actually thinking of Poland remaining independent west of the Curzon Line in 1920 while becoming Soviet east of the Curzon Line: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curzon_Line In such a scenario, I wonder if...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Yep, that's where I likewise see this color on that map. Upper Silesia is different because it is gray, which stands for the Catholic Center Party (Zentrum).
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Could we see a right-wing paramilitary "state within a state" emerging in Weimar Germany in this TL? Similar to present-day Iraq or Lebanon, but with the Freikorps filling in the role of Shi'a militias such as Hezbollah?
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Yes, please do. That said, though, did Germany really need Danzig all that much as a port when most of the territories south of Danzig were Polish? I would presume that Silesia could rely on Stettin as a port instead, for instance. And East Prussia had Konigsberg as a port.
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    I do want to point out one thing, though: When it came to Imperial German Reichstag elections, the Polish Corridor, other than its southernmost part, consistently voted for the Polish Party between 1871 and 1912. Meanwhile, in Upper Silesia, voting for the Polish Party only began on a huge scale...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Here's the map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Prussia#/media/File:Sprachen_Westpreussen_en.svg Also, territorial revisions would not have been possible without a new war with Poland, especially when they would have involved sovereign Polish territory like Weimar (unlike Hitler) wanted...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Here's a linguistic map of West Prussia in 1910: Kashubians were historically counted as Poles.
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    Technically speaking, the Locarno Treaty merely allowed Germany to make territorial claims in the East. It didn't actually mean that the Western Powers would actually recognize these territorial claims. And the ethnic makeup of the Polish Corridor was actually Polish-majority; it was Danzig that...
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    Thoughts on consequences of a total Polish defeat in the Soviet war of 1920

    It's worth noting that, in real life, relatively few of the Kresy (eastern Polish) Poles actually resettled in indisputably Polish territories west of the Curzon Line after the end of World War II. Rather, most of them resettled in the Recovered Territories, which, other than Masuria and western...
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