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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    I would suspect that freemen would gravitate more towards Louisiana than Texas. The climate is similar to what their been used to and there's more opportunity for employment in both agricultural and small scale business while the Mississippi provides much easier access. Plus depending on the...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    I must admit I've too lazy to make the effort. Used to hand write pages of stuff for my own amusement. Did start the 1809 POD TL on AH probably about 15 years ago, IIRC it was called Red, Blue and Green or something like that but got very little done. Plus as I've got older I've been less...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    It would depend of course on relations between Britain and the BNA and also political and social development, including economic policy in both and other areas. Unless it leads to an imperial federation, which would increasingly see its centres of power move to BNA - although the political...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    I have played with several scenarios which see longer or more frequent Anglo-America wars. A lot of my ideas come from a TL I played with, with a POD of 16th Jan 1809 but I also thought of an idea where the US decide to go to war in 1803/04 shortly after Napoleon and Britain resume their...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    I think that its simply too large an area for the technology of the time plus, provided that the US isn't a massive threat there's no great incentive for the assorted colonies to merge. Also such a large formation is likely to exclude Quebec, possibly parts of Louisiana if they keep their...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    I'm not sure that, other factors aside, slavery would last longer in the smaller US. You would have the same conflict between slave and free labour interests and they might come even earlier if there's no expansion west of the Mississippi to release some land conflict pressure. Of course...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    With the 1st map I like it although I think it would lead to war with the US sooner or later. Even assuming that both then and Spain were allowed free trading access that would mean both the Mississippi and Great Lakes/St Lawrence routes from the interior are under British control which I think...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    Think you will find Buba is talking of OTL. True he sneaked his army in while supposed being largely there for attacks on Portugal and the Spanish Bourbons had become a serious disappointment for him in terms of their corruption, incompetence and infighting. However it was still bloody stupid...
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    Unmanifest Destiny - A tale of the Nootka Sound War of 1790 and it's aftermath

    Guys Some interesting ideas here. Not sure that, especially after the mess of the US revolution, Britain would want that much largely empty land. The Pacific coastal region to secure trade there, possibly southern Louisiana to secure access to the Mississippi for British traders and perhaps...
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