75 going on 25, or 15, or 50, India gets ISOTd back in time on its Independence Day.

Agent23

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This is just a little initiative of mine to do ISOTs, what ifs and vs. matches on various national holidays around the world when I hear of them, sue me. :D
The event happens at 00:00 local time on the 14th of August, 2022.
This covers any and all territories where it has presence or that it has taken over as of the specified date.

Scenario 1: India gets ISOTed back to 1962.

Scenario 2: India gets ISOTed back to 1972.

Scenario 3: India gets ISOTed back to 1997.

So, how well does it do in the 3 scenarios, and how much "juicyness" is there in each new timeline.

Enjoy!
 

Skallagrim

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Scenario 3: India gets ISOTed back to 1997.
India can get very rich selling "technology from the future".

Scenario 2: India gets ISOTed back to 1972.
India can get much richer, still, and is now in fact a key power player on a global scale. It has so much to offer that it can force the West to stand back as India uses its future tech to utterly crush Pakistan and ensure its nuclear weapons programme (started January '72) never gets off the ground.

Scenario 1: India gets ISOTed back to 1962.
India has even more of an advantage, and -- I think -- is now the world's foremost nuclear power.
 

WolfBear

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India can get much richer, still, and is now in fact a key power player on a global scale. It has so much to offer that it can force the West to stand back as India uses its future tech to utterly crush Pakistan and ensure its nuclear weapons programme (started January '72) never gets off the ground.

Any chance of a full-on Indian partition of Pakistan and its separation into several constituent parts (independent states) in this TL?
 

Buba

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What @Skallagrim wrote - the further back, the greater the superpower India becomes.

The same applies to the scale of how hard India's economy crashes :), as a smaller, poorer world means fewer buyers of wonderous high tech from India, more difficulties in finding and fomenting replacement suppliers of no longer available imported components and thus slower recovery.
Nevertheless, being a continent size country this is somewhat mitigated.

The butterflies and changes caused by Uptime kwnoledge are too many and too unpredictable to mention. E.g. seeing what a millstone Israel has been to US foreign policy, will the 1962 USA form its "special relationship" with it? And good luck to JFK to be reelected - it is highly likely that the unzippered brothers' careers are shot. Come 1964 very different people will be elected to US positions, the country being unrecognizeable by 1970 latest.
 
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Atarlost

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Even in 1997 I think India is a key player. They would leapfrog China as the major Asian economy. Especially with uptime knowledge. India can publish a lot of stuff China doesn't want known before they have nearly full control of the American news media and all but guarantee that whoever wins the 2000 US election has run on an anti-Chinese platform. Maybe even the 1998 midterms. There will probably be a lot of anti-globalization pushback because Modi's Make in India initiative is the only thing saving India from ruin even with a 25 year displacement. Probably nobody else will be ISOTed, but that doesn't mean people won't be afraid having seen it happen.

India will dominate the 1997 Internet. Google is founded in 1998, but there are data centers in Mumbai and New Delhi and they probably get nationalized unless there are Indian stockholders. The tech is so much better that other search engines will mostly vanish as they did OTL and it will not be run by American leftists.
 

Agent23

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Even in 1997 I think India is a key player. They would leapfrog China as the major Asian economy. Especially with uptime knowledge. India can publish a lot of stuff China doesn't want known before they have nearly full control of the American news media and all but guarantee that whoever wins the 2000 US election has run on an anti-Chinese platform. Maybe even the 1998 midterms. There will probably be a lot of anti-globalization pushback because Modi's Make in India initiative is the only thing saving India from ruin even with a 25 year displacement. Probably nobody else will be ISOTed, but that doesn't mean people won't be afraid having seen it happen.

India will dominate the 1997 Internet. Google is founded in 1998, but there are data centers in Mumbai and New Delhi and they probably get nationalized unless there are Indian stockholders. The tech is so much better that other search engines will mostly vanish as they did OTL and it will not be run by American leftists.
Oh, yeah, there are a bunch of massive IT/tech companies in India as well as cloud provider datacenters.

Where they'd lag behind is actual manufacturing to replace the tech they already have.

Also, the Google algorithm was made public years ago, as is their big data solutions, many of which have opensource analogs.

There is just one big problem with them becoming dominant, namely that they don't have the ability to produce the chips and fiber optics they will need to dominate all the world's markets immediately.

Also, the current CEOs of Google and Microsoft are kinda-sorta Indian, so wokeitis/political correctness might still happen to a degree.

What they will make a real killing in is medicine and pharmaceuticals.
 

WolfBear

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Also, the current CEOs of Google and Microsoft are kinda-sorta Indian, so wokeitis/political correctness might still happen to a degree.

Kind of ironic how leftist upper-caste Indians sometimes portray themselves as oppressed POC in the West while they and/or their ancestors were actually the oppressors back at home in India.
 

Agent23

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Kind of ironic how leftist upper-caste Indians sometimes portray themselves as oppressed POC in the West while they and/or their ancestors were actually the oppressors back at home in India.
I have it on "good authority" that most Indian ITs come from the laundry washer cast. 😂
 

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