What If? Earth is ISOT'd to Disboard!

King Arts

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As stated in the title, what if RL Earth's continents (Circa 2022) was ISOTed into Disboard a month before the start of the anime by Tet for the lulz and before he did so, he revealed himself to all humans informing them that he was going to ISOT them into a world where he is the One True God and that in this world, everything is solved by games and tells them about the pledges which I have listed below. He also tells them that he is putting them under Imanity control seeing as we are basically like Imanity for all intents and purposes.

Pledges
  1. All murder, war and robbery is forbidden in this world.
  2. All conflicts in this world will be resolved through games.
  3. In games, each player will bet something that they agree is of equal value.
  4. As long as it doesn't go against Pledge 3, anything may be bet, and any game may be played.
  5. The challenged party has the right to decide the rules of the game.
  6. Any bets made in accordance with the pledges must be upheld.
  7. Conflicts between groups will be conducted by designated representatives with absolute authority.
  8. Being caught cheating during a game is grounds for an instant loss.
  9. In the name of God, the previous rules may never be changed.
  10. Let's all have fun and play together!

Now, what happens next?

Can RL humanity survive and thrive? How does RL humanity react to a world where violence is is impossible thus all our weapons are now useless? How do governments handle the fact that their monopoly on force no longer exists?

How does RL humanity react to the fact that the absolute authority over us belongs to a monarchy of medieval humans who keep losing?

How do the other races react to our presence? How do we react to the other races?

What does Imanity do, maybe abandon the land on the continents it shares with the exceed races and come to RL humanity continents?

Btw, No Game No Life does not exist as a franchise for RL humanity and the MCs of the series will never appear.

So yeah, what happens?
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
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We rules lawyer, and we do so effectively and gloriously. Also, we probably act like the devious and vicious monkeys we are and utterly fuck their shit up while still rules lawyering. I can see loopholes already that we can abuse to hell and back, which is fair play given the loophole abuse by the other species. There are obvious loopholes in 1. for example. Robbery is theft by force, so other forms of theft are open. Murder can be defined as wrongful or unjust or unjustified killing, which then allows for killing that doesn't fall into the aforementioned categories (like self-defense, which can be used against those who seek to destroy you...). Well, war has several definitions and it really depends on what war "actually" means according to the BROB. I am sure given the chicanery that we have seen in the last few decades and hell throughout history. After all, are tactical strikes war? Are special operations war? Is economic sabotage war? Is the utter subversion and demoralization of a society war? Is terrorism war? Is a crazy man setting bomb war? Is intentionally altering weather patterns to starve your enemies through chemical seeding war? Is distributing fake vaccines that cause sterility and then allow you to pastoralize their planet for your interstellar empire a form of war? Is inciting their population to turn on each other war?

I am pretty sure we would have it in the bag, with all of our clever ruses and dirty tricks...as long as they idiots that kept losing don't screw everything over. So I think they react in terror when they realize what we truly are, or are to them. I could make all sorts of comparisons. But, in light of what they have done to our kin...we would be a monument! A monument to all their sins.

So, if the idiots won't fork over control to a proper proxy, what we need to do is properly unite and then pull an MC on them. Gain control with our proxy, and then wage a war without war, and fight for everything we cherish. And if it must be so, then we must find ways to die in glory for them.

And why, I think we would be able to do so? Well, just open up the news and you'll find countless new and innovative ways of cheating. Find a contest, and people will find a way to cheat, even if they do not need to. Crack open a history text, and you will find it replete with cheating: in politics, in war, in love, in sport...

And sometimes, cheating is the right thing to do, because the alternative is abhorrent. There is no honorable defeat. Only victory or death. In a sense Cartman is right to say, "It is at our most challenging times that we must cheat our very hardest."
 

King Arts

Well-known member
We rules lawyer, and we do so effectively and gloriously. Also, we probably act like the devious and vicious monkeys we are and utterly fuck their shit up while still rules lawyering. I can see loopholes already that we can abuse to hell and back, which is fair play given the loophole abuse by the other species. There are obvious loopholes in 1. for example. Robbery is theft by force, so other forms of theft are open. Murder can be defined as wrongful or unjust or unjustified killing, which then allows for killing that doesn't fall into the aforementioned categories (like self-defense, which can be used against those who seek to destroy you...). Well, war has several definitions and it really depends on what war "actually" means according to the BROB. I am sure given the chicanery that we have seen in the last few decades and hell throughout history. After all, are tactical strikes war? Are special operations war? Is economic sabotage war? Is the utter subversion and demoralization of a society war? Is terrorism war? Is a crazy man setting bomb war? Is intentionally altering weather patterns to starve your enemies through chemical seeding war? Is distributing fake vaccines that cause sterility and then allow you to pastoralize their planet for your interstellar empire a form of war? Is inciting their population to turn on each other war?

I am pretty sure we would have it in the bag, with all of our clever ruses and dirty tricks...as long as they idiots that kept losing don't screw everything over. So I think they react in terror when they realize what we truly are, or are to them. I could make all sorts of comparisons. But, in light of what they have done to our kin...we would be a monument! A monument to all their sins.

So, if the idiots won't fork over control to a proper proxy, what we need to do is properly unite and then pull an MC on them. Gain control with our proxy, and then wage a war without war, and fight for everything we cherish. And if it must be so, then we must find ways to die in glory for them.

And why, I think we would be able to do so? Well, just open up the news and you'll find countless new and innovative ways of cheating. Find a contest, and people will find a way to cheat, even if they do not need to. Crack open a history text, and you will find it replete with cheating: in politics, in war, in love, in sport...

And sometimes, cheating is the right thing to do, because the alternative is abhorrent. There is no honorable defeat. Only victory or death. In a sense Cartman is right to say, "It is at our most challenging times that we must cheat our very hardest."
LOL dude 90% of what you said is banned. The first rule forbids ALL violence(except against yourself or your slaves) The pledges don't really have loopholes. The first rule bans murder, assault, theft, and rape. I think it was said somewhere that if someone tried to have sex with someone who was asleep who did not consent to it it would be impossible. That means the rule bans more than just robbery or stealing by force. It would also ban pickpocketing and other stealthy methods of theft. It probably won't do anything with fraud though or scams.

As for murder I used it to define all killing. If you bring up "justifications" then anyone can say they are justified. ISIS is justified in killing you because you are a heathen, etc. the rule then becomes pointless. It bans all violence even self defense, but then again since initiating violence without someone agreeing to it first is impossible so is self defense. Also that's a good thing because if a Flugel aka angel aka the 6th most powerful race thought "Oh they want to exterminate everyone else, I better kill them in self defense!" Then we'd die one of them survived an atom bomb point blank explosion, the shield was to protect the other humans. Even if we bet "If we win you will let us kill you." I don't think modern humanity has anything that can kill some of these races. Like to kill Jibril it required atomic fuckery to make something like a super nova that was 50 billion degrees Celsius.




As for what war is yes tactical strikes and Putin's "special operations" are wars. Economic sabatoge what do you mean? Sanctions are ok, destroying someone's property is not. Again it bans violence so the terrorists and crazy mad bomber are stopped. The Russian soldier that goes in Ukraine is now unable to shoot, or stab anyone, can't punch, kick, strike, or hit them. They also can't steal washing machines. Can you still have a "special millitary operation" if those are impossible to do?

If you think about it this is a libertarian's wet dream since the NAP is literally written into physics by an omnipotent God. But yes modern Humanity should do better than Imanity, but again there is a risk to cheating if you are caught that means you automatically lose and forfeit whatever you bet your body will literally betray you and you can't stop the other person from claiming it. But wouldn't this also cause governments to collapse since the monopoly of violence is lost. After all now people can just ignore the police and they can't use force against you, pretty much the only things are social shaming and shunning, or challenging to a game they will accept and then that could force them.
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder
Well, I guess we'd have to master bullshitting and passive-aggression. Fighting without fighting. From what you are saying, the best way of abusing the rules is to go the "I am not touching you" route. I wonder if doing sit ins and acting like those asshole activists would work?

About economic sabotage, I was thinking of finding ways to fuck with their economy without actually breaking the rules. I am sure there are technicalities, even if we need to do some Rube Goldberg level of set up.

About cheating, I was thinking about a recent Riketa Lehto Law video about cheating in Chess, more specifically how we can catch people cheating without catching their exact method. I think we might be able to deploy both how we find out people, and these sneaky methods. Would proving that it is impossible for them to not be cheating, satisfying catching them cheating? Since, you actually don't need to know how someone is cheating to know they are, there is common sense (which isn't enough) and such things as statistical analysis...

And we have methods that you actually need investigation to defeat, and people in real-life abuse to hell and back. For example we could use a chess engine to cheat, and having someone subtly feed you the info. Hell, to make it less noticeable, we could probably make the method of signaling impossible to detect... Though, I am sure we'd have to tailor our methods of cheating to each civilization, and play against their strengths and weaknesses.
 
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