Europe and progressivism

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist

Just few days ago, France became the first country to enshrine right to abortion into its constitution. This is a major step in further descent of West into the hell, coming on top of the immigration, moral relativity and other anti-human policies.

This is nothing new, however. Since the end of the Middle Ages, it seems that all truly evil ideas had come from this area of Europe. France led the way by establishing alliance with Ottoman Empire in 1536, and this alliance lasted all the way to 1798.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Putang Ina Mo, Katolikong Hayop!
England had its own shares of unusual centers of progressivism of its own. Secret societies that we know well today did come from the British Isles.

And regarding France, it was simply a matter of its own national self-interest: should France subordinate itself to the Holy Roman Empire or choose a different path? Let's also keep in mind that despite being a Catholic kingdom, France sided with the Protestants during the 30YW, only because its rivals were in the Catholic camp.
 

LordDemiurge

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Maybe the Great Filter is that whatever lets your civilization become advanced and sophisticated also comes with social maladies and mutations that are just as likely to sodomize everything you've built.
 

ATP

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Just few days ago, France became the first country to enshrine right to abortion into its constitution. This is a major step in further descent of West into the hell, coming on top of the immigration, moral relativity and other anti-human policies.

This is nothing new, however. Since the end of the Middle Ages, it seems that all truly evil ideas had come from this area of Europe. France led the way by establishing alliance with Ottoman Empire in 1536, and this alliance lasted all the way to 1798.
Protestants were turks allies,too.Their motto was "rather turban then tiara"
 

Agent23

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Just few days ago, France became the first country to enshrine right to abortion into its constitution. This is a major step in further descent of West into the hell, coming on top of the immigration, moral relativity and other anti-human policies.

This is nothing new, however. Since the end of the Middle Ages, it seems that all truly evil ideas had come from this area of Europe. France led the way by establishing alliance with Ottoman Empire in 1536, and this alliance lasted all the way to 1798.
France is very much cucked, but most cucking happened more recently than the 16th century.

The slope went truly downward during the french revolution and the big cucking started after WWI IMHO, like it did in most of Europe because conservatism and patriotism were undermined and crap like the USSR became a thing.

Then after 1945, GloboHomo GAE started becoming a thing.
 

ATP

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France is very much cucked, but most cucking happened more recently than the 16th century.

The slope went truly downward during the french revolution and the big cucking started after WWI IMHO, like it did in most of Europe because conservatism and patriotism were undermined and crap like the USSR became a thing.

Then after 1945, GloboHomo GAE started becoming a thing.
To be precise - after masons take over after 1875.Which was possible only becouse catholics could not agree which King should be choosed....
IF i were better writer,i would create AH where catholic France kick german and later soviet asses,and save Europe.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Putang Ina Mo, Katolikong Hayop!
France is very much cucked, but most cucking happened more recently than the 16th century.

The slope went truly downward during the french revolution and the big cucking started after WWI IMHO, like it did in most of Europe because conservatism and patriotism were undermined and crap like the USSR became a thing.

Then after 1945, GloboHomo GAE started becoming a thing.
England is even more cucked than France though. The Enlightenment was a mistake.
 
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ATP

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I honestly think the two may be linked. You cannot really preach love for everyone and not become a cuck.
Wrong! as long as we had Inquisition,we were fine.Love for sinner,but hate for sin,you knew.And better destroy body then let soul go to hell.Once we had it....
 

ATP

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About idiotic progress - in polish Sejm leftist danced to hight opression of womans.And,the same leftists arleady welcomed muslims....
The same leftist laugh at normal catholics becouse of fasting during Lent - but many eat even less becouse of fitness.And are admiring buddhist or muslims fast.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I honestly think the two may be linked. You cannot really preach love for everyone and not become a cuck.
Yes, you can.

You just have to preach more than just love.

You also have to preach wisdom, and temperance, and strength, and all sorts of other virtues that must be pursued in balance with each other.

Exaltation or rejection of any virtue to pathological levels will resulted in distorted function, perversion, and destruction.

I can say that I hold a love for the whole human race. I'm not some brainless ideologue though, so I'm able to separate out that this doesn't mean I have to support open borders, or be an 'ally' to people with diseased mentalities they're trying to turn into sexualities and identities, or any other such nonsense.

I wish for everyone to prosper, to find fulfillment and joy in life. Mostly I'll do that by not making their lives worse, and letting them see to their own affairs.
 

TheRomanSlayer

Putang Ina Mo, Katolikong Hayop!
Latin America might have escaped the woke insanity, but Liberation Theology is basically Catholic Communism, so that might also be a dangerous idea. Unfortunately, the Philippines has caught the Euro-Atlantic woke BS as well.

How woke are the Uniate Churches though?
 

LordDemiurge

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I honestly think the two may be linked. You cannot really preach love for everyone and not become a cuck.
I think the difference is it means two very different things to be equal in the eyes of God vs to be equal in the eyes of man/nature.

Now that God is dead as Nietzsche tells it, the burden of being all loving is thrust onto all our shoulders. All the while Nature carries on indifferent to our ethics.
 

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