Francisco Franco Ruined Spanish Right

[Aldarion]

While Franco was the best option Spain had at the time, his inability to create anything beyond his own persona and cult of personality led to defeat of his beliefs and ideas immediately after his death. Franco was in fact apolitical, and while he wanted to save Spain he never really understood his enemy. Even when the Marxist, terrorist Republic overthrew the monarchy, he initially did absolutely nothing.

 

[Cherico]

To be fair to him though no body truely understood just how toxicly and cartoonishly evil Marxists are, and at the moment of victory people didn't get how cartoonishly evil the nazis were. Franco for all of his faults successfully threaded the needle and prevented his country from getting dragged into yet another war that its people didn't need or want.

Just like Spain avoided the ravages of the 1st world war it avoided the ravages of the 2nd and Franco deserves a lot of credit for that.

 

[ATP]

While Franco was the best option Spain had at the time, his inability to create anything beyond his own persona and cult of personality led to defeat of his beliefs and ideas immediately after his death. Franco was in fact apolitical, and while he wanted to save Spain he never really understood his enemy. Even when the Marxist, terrorist Republic overthrew the monarchy, he initially did absolutely nothing.

True,if he reformed Spain using carlists,after his death we would have normal state when people would vote for normal parties.

To be fair to him though no body truely understood just how toxicly and cartoonishly evil Marxists are, and at the moment of victory people didn't get how cartoonishly evil the nazis were. Franco for all of his faults successfully threaded the needle and prevented his country from getting dragged into yet another war that its people didn't need or want.

Just like Spain avoided the ravages of the 1st world war it avoided the ravages of the 2nd and Franco deserves a lot of credit for that.

Also true,without him Spain would fall like Central Europe.But thanks to him,still fall after 1975....

 

[King Arts]

The problem is that he was seduced by the cuckoldry of monarchy. He actually believed in the Spanish king. What he should have done if he wanted monarchy was make himself king, and have his own son as heir. That way it would be less likely for a liberal king to come to power.

 

[ATP]

The problem is that he was seduced by the cuckoldry of monarchy. He actually believed in the Spanish king. What he should have done if he wanted monarchy was make himself king, and have his own son as heir. That way it would be less likely for a liberal king to come to power.

Good idea,it should worked.Especially if he adopted carlists ideas - free provinces,and free economy-for spaniards.

 

[filipina84]

While Franco was the best option Spain had at the time, his inability to create anything beyond his own persona and cult of personality led to defeat of his beliefs and ideas immediately after his death. Franco was in fact apolitical, and while he wanted to save Spain he never really understood his enemy. Even when the Marxist, terrorist Republic overthrew the monarchy, he initially did absolutely nothing.

Interesting video.

 

[PsihoKekec]

There were two options in the early Civil War, Carlist king or Falangist dictatorship, Franco choose caudillo route, threading between the two groups at first and grinding them into impotence later. Like most officers, he wanted to see the leftist leadership of the republic gone and what was to replace it they had no idea.

What he should have done if he wanted monarchy was make himself king, and have his own son as heir.

Likely wouldn't work, monarchists and carlists were very traditionalist, a person of no royal blood declaring himself a king would not be accepted, no matter the merits. Thus he would only reduce his support base, increasing the chance of the second civil war.

 

[ATP]

There were two options in the early Civil War, Carlist king or Falangist dictatorship, Franco choose caudillo route, threading between the two groups at first and grinding them into impotence later. Like most officers, he wanted to see the leftist leadership of the republic gone and what was to replace it they had no idea.



Likely wouldn't work, monarchists and carlists were very traditionalist, a person of no royal blood declaring himself a king would not be accepted, no matter the merits. Thus he would only reduce his support base, increasing the chance of the second civil war.

Yes,Carlist King was only option - but,sadly,he died without heir.

 

[King Arts]

There were two options in the early Civil War, Carlist king or Falangist dictatorship, Franco choose caudillo route, threading between the two groups at first and grinding them into impotence later. Like most officers, he wanted to see the leftist leadership of the republic gone and what was to replace it they had no idea.



Likely wouldn't work, monarchists and carlists were very traditionalist, a person of no royal blood declaring himself a king would not be accepted, no matter the merits. Thus he would only reduce his support base, increasing the chance of the second civil war.

But historically all kings started out as warriors that took over from someone else. That’s how most dynastys started.

 

[ATP]

But historically all kings started out as warriors that took over from someone else. That’s how most dynastys started.

In ancient and medieval times.Now,you could not conqer and become King,only dictator,like Franco.

 

[PsihoKekec]

But historically all kings started out as warriors that took over from someone else. That’s how most dynastys started.

Back in the day it was so, but then nobility decided that heritage will become the deciding factor, so their descendants could go soft. Napoleon was the greatest conqueror since the Genghis Khan but the nobility of Europe would never accept him nor would the French monarchists, it was the same in Spain.

 

[King Arts]

Back in the day it was so, but then nobility decided that heritage will become the deciding factor, so their descendants could go soft. Napoleon was the greatest conqueror since the Genghis Khan but the nobility of Europe would never accept him nor would the French monarchists, it was the same in Spain.

Thats why moderrn monarchists are liberals and cucks. They simp for a bloodline, but that was not how it was historically. In the middle ages kings actually did shit and lead from the front. They were warriors and generals first, not rich dilettantes.

 

[ATP]

Thats why moderrn monarchists are liberals and cucks. They simp for a bloodline, but that was not how it was historically. In the middle ages kings actually did shit and lead from the front. They were warriors and generals first, not rich dilettantes.

Yup.And after victory,they declared themselves as descendents of Alexander the great,Brutus of Troy,or somebody else.

Well,expect Poand.Our ancestors belived,that they beat both Alexander the Great and Ceasar...considering that they never come here,rather unlikely.

 

[Aldarion]

Thats why moderrn monarchists are liberals and cucks. They simp for a bloodline, but that was not how it was historically. In the middle ages kings actually did shit and lead from the front. They were warriors and generals first, not rich dilettantes.

Yup.And after victory,they declared themselves as descendents of Alexander the great,Brutus of Troy,or somebody else.

Well,expect Poand.Our ancestors belived,that they beat both Alexander the Great and Ceasar...considering that they never come here,rather unlikely.

Not just in Middle Ages, though.


Even today, royalty tend to regularly go into the army. Which gives them far more military experience and direct awareness of cost of war than majority of elected officials have.