Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[Marduk]

Not all Palestinians are Islamists. Hamas is yes. But there are Palestinians not just in Gaza but also the westbank Christians that get shafted by the Israelis.

Many are. Probably most. And the rest are their, well, subjects/slaves/human shields that the islamists do with as they please, whether they like it or not.

If they don't know what they are aiming at they should not shoot.

If it gets their own people or themselves killed because they hesitated its their problem, not yours. This is war, not a policing operation.

There is this thing called a scope. It magnifies vision.

They aren't using fucking iron sights maybe you are the one whose knowledge of war is 100 years in the past.

By how much? How well? In what conditions? Have you ever used a scope for long range shooting? Hunted? In a realistic videogame at least?

Yes accusations of anti semitism because someone doesen't worship the ground Israel walks on.

Very compelling, also many things get leftist influence. But the whole thing isn't corrupted, and your standards are way out of wack, you literally said that France durring the Ancien Regime in the 1600's and 1700's was communist/socialist because of centralization.

Well wikipedia gets enough for fucking Harvard, not exactly famous for being right wing, says its notable.

So are your sources.

So you still don't get the point?

Yes this side conversation is about Israel's bad acts though. No one is saying Hamas are heroes or good people. There are people who simp for Mossad.

So? Better Mossad than Hamas.

Dude the cruelty that the French did in Haitii was some of the most brutal, I struggle to think of a way to make it worse. A life span of 6 months is pretty bad. So once a rebellion happens it will be brutal and the slaves will fight with ferocity.

Then why didn't that happen all over the islamic world which was also among most brutal, and on far larger scale?

Because of your dumb super strict policy it then leads to your "side" suffering cruelty they would not have endured if they were more decent.

What did Yazidis and Kurds do to deserve everything ISIL did? Don't sell these fairytales to me...
1940's Germany meanwhile did a lot of bad stuff yet, especially on the western side, yet no one did that much cruelty to them in return.
So obviously some other factors are more important.

Actually not really well. For instance with POW's. Insurgents can't capture prisoners if enemies surrender to them the partisans can at most either disarm them and send them back to their units, or just shoot them.

Who said they can't? Even small shitster guerilla movements like FARC famously took prisoners.
Sometimes circumstances do not allow it, but that also applies to conventional armed forces, starting with the big issue of "you can't surrender to aircraft" and ending with commandos.

The weaker party has a duty to be reasonable and surrender promptly, and the stronger party has a duty to not be too strict or harsh and unreasonable towards the weaker party to avoid a partisan problem.

Reasonable enough. But what do you do when the weaker party is decades overdue for surrender?

Well I guess the other Church's and the entire hierarchy are also idiots for believing the words of the people from the actual area.

The people from the area who... are under exactly the same threats and limitations? We are talking about essentially rural rumor level of information credibility.

Only you Marduk are smart enough to see the truth and cut out the bullshit in the fog of war, and to divide and seperate propaganda from the facts.

Yes, i'm smart enough to see that there is a lack of serious evidence given here either way, but a lot of very confident claiming of a certain option despite that lack, which naturally has to be bullshit, as it's not based on any meaningful evidence, or even claim of anything specifically pointing to IDF, not just fucking rumors.
Like in the Trump assassination, it was barely over 100 meters and a bunch of fucking cops and USSS agents struggled to tell if the assassin is one of the police snipers so they didn't want to friendly fire by mistake.
Do you really believe that random unnamed civilians in Gaza are so much better at this stuff that they can identify a military sniper in hiding from probably much longer distance?

Honestly I'm surprised no news service, or intelligence service hired you so that you can share your wisdom.

Well it's generally not their job to share wisdom.

I'm pretty sure they can tell a sniper shot, and since they live on the ground and know intimately both the Hamas and IDF they know who is most likely to do something in certain scenarios.

Sure, they are all fucking terminators that upon hearing a particular shot in a warzone with near constant gunfire not only can identify each weapon fired even at long distance, even ones in the same calibers (yes Hamas and Israel both use 7.62x51 and .50 rifles) and sometimes with suppression as used by some snipers, and then use that data to determine whose soldier was that, even if he's using a Israeli weapon looted from a military outpost on Oct 7! No wonder the area is so contested, everyone wants to get those for their army!

Seriously though, it's a sort of guesswork even best gun experts in the world would not bet their money on.

 

[Zachowon]

Snipers have to identify if what they are seeing is a threat or not, especially if force protecting larger ground forces.
Anything further then 100 yards it gets more complicated and snipers operates beyond 300.
Can you hit 900 to 1000 with iron sights? Yes.
Is it easy? No.
Can I idneifty a enemy ir friendly target with an optic from that far quickly? Depends, are we dealing with uniformed or non uniformed combatants

 

[Bacle]

 

[mrttao]

hmm...
well, Russia selling weapons to the Houtis and the USA stopping it sounds plausible.
but it is coming from CNN

If CNN said the sky is blue, I would look outside to check it hasn't suddenly changed to a different color
what is CNN's angle here?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Oh, I'm sure there was some sort of deal, but Russia has been pulling arms shipments since the very beginning of their 'not really a war' war with Ukraine. Russia needs those arms and munitions

I'm sure Russia is attempting to use this 'kind action to the world' as leverage for something out of the Biden Admin, and, frankly, that kinda worries me.

 

[Zachowon]

(Backup: <Mossad hired Iranian agents to plant bombs in three rooms of Haniyeh'…>) <Mossad hired Iranian agents to plant bombs in Haniyeh’s residence><https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/...le_code=1.AE4.1MNW.rhyLjz27Euc0&smid=em-share>

> Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, hired Iranian security agents to plant explosives in three separate rooms of a building where a Hamas leader was staying, the Telegraph has learned.
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> The original plan was to assassinate Ismail Haniyeh, the political head of the Palestinian terror group, in May when he attended the funeral of Ebrahim Raisi, Iran's former president.
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> The operation didn't go ahead due to the large crowds inside the building and the high possibility of its failure, two Iranian officials told The Telegraph.
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> Instead, the two agents placed explosive devices in three rooms of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC) guesthouse in north Tehran where Haniyeh might stay.
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> The agents were seen moving stealthily as they entered and exited multiple rooms within minutes, according to the officials who have CCTV footage of the building.
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> The operatives are then said to have snuck out of the country but had a source still in Iran. At 2am on Wednesday, they detonated the explosives from abroad in the room where Haniyeh was staying.
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> Iran has arrested more than two dozen people, including senior intelligence officers, military officials and staff workers at a military-run guesthouse in Tehran, in response to a huge and humiliating security breach that enabled the assassination of a top leader of Hamas, according to two Iranians familiar with the investigation.

 

[Bacle]

 

[King Arts]

This is you being unable to consider the difference between guilt and allegation of guilt.
This is objective mental disability level of stupid.

Pot calling kettle black

Listen guilt is determined at a trial. People who do crimes are usually arrested and held in jail while they wait for trial to come unless there is a showing that they are not a flight risk or violent.

Unless you think we should not detain violent rapists and murderers, and rioters until the court convicts them, then the IDF Military Police did the right thing when there was evidence of war crimes. And those who tried stormed the military base should be lucky they weren't shot, but they should be tried as accessories to rape after the fact as well as obstructing justice.

Fuck you, wish you get arrested because someone alleges you did something bad because he hates you.

Why don't you act professional instead of acting like a butthurt Israeli?

Listen if there is fucking video evidence of you raping someone, yes you should be arrested. There is enough evidence to show probable cause. If your own side thinks you might have done something then they should fucking detain you while they investigate.

 

[Marduk]

Pot calling kettle black

Listen guilt is determined at a trial. People who do crimes are usually arrested and held in jail while they wait for trial to come unless there is a showing that they are not a flight risk or violent.

Unless you think we should not detain violent rapists and murderers, and rioters until the court convicts them, then the IDF Military Police did the right thing when there was evidence of war crimes. And those who tried stormed the military base should be lucky they weren't shot, but they should be tried as accessories to rape after the fact as well as obstructing justice.

So accusers, even in as malicious and conflicted situation as a fucking war should be taken at their word no matter what, and the accused be arrested?
Great, didn't know you support the #MeToo movement and feminist justice.

Why don't you act professional instead of acting like a butthurt Israeli?

I don't know what you think my profession is but it's not tard wrangling.

Listen if there is fucking video evidence of you raping someone, yes you should be arrested. There is enough evidence to show probable cause. If your own side thinks you might have done something then they should fucking detain you while they investigate.

>if
Where is the video evidence?
>your own side
So if even the craziest leftists in your country accuse you of something, am i to assume there is something to it and you do deserve to be arrested while they investigate?

 

[King Arts]

So accusers, even in as malicious and conflicted situation as a fucking war should be taken at their word no matter what, and the accused be arrested?
Great, didn't know you support the #MeToo movement and feminist justice.

1. Why bring up feminism? This isn’t a man raping a woman. This was a homosexual act. One man on another man.
2. I am not sure how military investigation works I’m not JAG or an MP maybe @Zachowon knows what’s the process for a rape investigation in the army?

But in the civilian world. If there is an accusation the police will start an investigation, if they find probable cause they will arrest the person and then continue to gather evidence. There will be a hearing in front of a judge to decide on bail. If the person is dangerous or a flight risk bail will be denied and the person stays in jail until the trial is concluded if bail is granted they are let go and told to promise to come back for trial. That’s how civilized countries handle it.

if
Where is the video evidence?
>your own side
So if even the craziest leftists in your country accuse you of something, am i to assume there is something to it and you do deserve to be arrested while they investigate?

Are you fucking joking? You want me to post a rape video on this site? Are you dumb or trying to get me banned? We had a guy who posted a picture of Bidens son committing sex crimes he saw off twitter and he got banned.

And I already said the process for if I’m accused of rape.

But let’s go through with it. Warning this will be graphic any children should not read below this.

Scenario 1
You are a cop some Karen says she was looking into her neighbors house and she heard screaming and saw a nude tied up woman in my home. You go to investigate and knock on my door I take a while to put on pants you say what I’m suspected of and ask to come in. I’m embarrassed but I let you come in you find the nude woman and she squeals in embarrassment you think something untoward is going on but after removing the woman’s ball gag and talking you find out she is my wife and we are kinky and into BDSM.
Do you have probable cause to suspect a rape has taken place?


Scenario 2
Similar as above a Karen was peeping through my window and saw me with a passed out woman. You investigate come to the house knock I let you in you see in plain view the woman passed out along with alcohol and a bottle of pills. You suspect they might be roofies as when you try to wake up the woman she is unresponsive. While you haven’t conclusively proven anything yet do you think you have probable cause here to detain me and keep me away from the woman?

Do you now see that you can be arrested before an actual conviction?

 

[Marduk]

1. Why bring up feminism? This isn’t a man raping a woman. This was a homosexual act. One man on another man.

Because both cases being poorly evidenced allegations of such.

2. I am not sure how military investigation works I’m not JAG or an MP maybe @Zachowon knows what’s the process for a rape investigation in the army?

Well the protest is about Israeli one being done badly.

But in the civilian world.

We are not talking about the civilian world, we are talking about a war, where the other side has nothing to lose by lying about such things while getting what is a measurable gain from it.

If there is an accusation the police will start an investigation, if they find probable cause they will arrest the person and then continue to gather evidence. There will be a hearing in front of a judge to decide on bail. If the person is dangerous or a flight risk bail will be denied and the person stays in jail until the trial is concluded if bail is granted they are let go and told to promise to come back for trial. That’s how civilized countries handle it.

That's the theory.

Are you fucking joking? You want me to post a rape video on this site? Are you dumb or trying to get me banned? We had a guy who posted a picture of Bidens son committing sex crimes he saw off twitter and he got banned.

I asked you where is it, not to post it on the site. I can for example tell you that certain leaked classified documents can be found on wikileaks or on xyz's twitter page, or that there is some quite gory stuff on /r/combatfootage without posting it or even linking it on the site.
Secondly, in the hindsight of said allegations turning out to be false and soldiers being released in the end, the existence of such supposedly definitive video evidence would be quite a story in its own right.

And I already said the process for if I’m accused of rape.

And i'm supposed to trust the process is inherently always ideal, as in theory?

But let’s go through with it. Warning this will be graphic any children should not read below this.

Scenario 1
You are a cop some Karen says she was looking into her neighbors house and she heard screaming and saw a nude tied up woman in my home. You go to investigate and knock on my door I take a while to put on pants you say what I’m suspected of and ask to come in. I’m embarrassed but I let you come in you find the nude woman and she squeals in embarrassment you think something untoward is going on but after removing the woman’s ball gag and talking you find out she is my wife and we are kinky and into BDSM.
Do you have probable cause to suspect a rape has taken place?


Scenario 2
Similar as above a Karen was peeping through my window and saw me with a passed out woman. You investigate come to the house knock I let you in you see in plain view the woman passed out along with alcohol and a bottle of pills. You suspect they might be roofies as when you try to wake up the woman she is unresponsive. While you haven’t conclusively proven anything yet do you think you have probable cause here to detain me and keep me away from the woman?

Do you now see that you can be arrested before an actual conviction?

Oh i absolutely know that there are situations where such arrests are justified. I, and the protesters just think that to consider the specific situation one of such is ridiculous, if not bordering on treasonous, considering the subject.

 

[Zachowon]

1. Why bring up feminism? This isn’t a man raping a woman. This was a homosexual act. One man on another man.
2. I am not sure how military investigation works I’m not JAG or an MP maybe @Zachowon knows what’s the process for a rape investigation in the army?

But in the civilian world. If there is an accusation the police will start an investigation, if they find probable cause they will arrest the person and then continue to gather evidence. There will be a hearing in front of a judge to decide on bail. If the person is dangerous or a flight risk bail will be denied and the person stays in jail until the trial is concluded if bail is granted they are let go and told to promise to come back for trial. That’s how civilized countries handle it.


Are you fucking joking? You want me to post a rape video on this site? Are you dumb or trying to get me banned? We had a guy who posted a picture of Bidens son committing sex crimes he saw off twitter and he got banned.

And I already said the process for if I’m accused of rape.

But let’s go through with it. Warning this will be graphic any children should not read below this.

Scenario 1
You are a cop some Karen says she was looking into her neighbors house and she heard screaming and saw a nude tied up woman in my home. You go to investigate and knock on my door I take a while to put on pants you say what I’m suspected of and ask to come in. I’m embarrassed but I let you come in you find the nude woman and she squeals in embarrassment you think something untoward is going on but after removing the woman’s ball gag and talking you find out she is my wife and we are kinky and into BDSM.
Do you have probable cause to suspect a rape has taken place?


Scenario 2
Similar as above a Karen was peeping through my window and saw me with a passed out woman. You investigate come to the house knock I let you in you see in plain view the woman passed out along with alcohol and a bottle of pills. You suspect they might be roofies as when you try to wake up the woman she is unresponsive. While you haven’t conclusively proven anything yet do you think you have probable cause here to detain me and keep me away from the woman?

Do you now see that you can be arrested before an actual conviction?

Investigations take time and people arnt immediately arrested unless there is undeniable proof.

 

[Bacle]

Well, an internal battle between the IRGC and the Iranian president over what sort of strikes on Israel should be carried out seems to be going on.

 

[King Arts]

Because both cases being poorly evidenced allegations of such.

So videos are poor evidence?

Well the protest is about Israeli one being done badly.

There was no evidence the investigate was done bad. This was a group of radicals who are angry that there was ANY investigation or limit on their actions. They want the right to rape, they are rape apologists.

We are not talking about the civilian world, we are talking about a war, where the other side has nothing to lose by lying about such things while getting what is a measurable gain from it.

Are you saying that there is no such thing as military laws banning rape in war?

That's the theory.

Yup you are supposed to try and apply theory into practice.

I asked you where is it, not to post it on the site. I can for example tell you that certain leaked classified documents can be found on wikileaks or on xyz's twitter page, or that there is some quite gory stuff on /r/combatfootage without posting it or even linking it on the site.

The news articles said there was a video. I'm not a gay BDSMist so I don't want to go looking for a video showing gay rape.

And i'm supposed to trust the process is inherently always ideal, as in theory?

This is a dumb argument. I guess we can't prohibit Muslim rape and grooming gangs. What if someone is racist and accuses an innocent Muslim and they get their life ruined. Oh gee I guess we can't enforce any laws, we can't punish robbery or murder because an innocent black guy could be accused in a gang and arrested.

Better to be safe and just not punish criminals.

Oh i absolutely know that there are situations where such arrests are justified. I, and the protesters just think that to consider the specific situation one of such is ridiculous, if not bordering on treasonous, considering the subject.

This is stupid and any nation that follows your ideas will become a pariah hated by everyone.

Like holy shit do you think the American officers, or the president of the U.S. who prosecuted or refused to give a pardon to this guy are traitors?

John A. Bennett - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Marduk]

So videos are poor evidence?

They can be. I can show you video "evidence" of the yeti, Loch Ness monster and space aliens and then you can tell me if they are poor evidence or not.
But besides...

The news articles said there was a video. I'm not a gay BDSMist so I don't want to go looking for a video showing gay rape.

Now that's the weakest kind of video evidence in existence - one that exists only rumoredly. That's a step even below the yeti videos.
So you say there is video evidence and it's good, but no one can see it, but we are supposed to trust it as a fact. What you have done here constitutes better evidence of your own antisemitism than anything the Israeli soldiers did.

There was no evidence the investigate was done bad. This was a group of radicals who are angry that there was ANY investigation or limit on their actions. They want the right to rape, they are rape apologists.

There is no evidence yet you want Jewish soldiers arrested because there is an allegation. So you are an antisemite by your own logic.
And no, i don't give a damn about the hypothetical radicals building settlements on the real estate in your head.
If you even bothered to read any decent article about this event you would know.

IDF moves troops to base where mob protested arrest of soldiers for abusing Gaza detainee

***

www.haaretz.com

"Mob protested the arrest of soldiers"
King Arts: NOOOOO, the mob protested the fact that there was even an investigation at all and want rape of Palestinians to be legal!
Sorry, but your mind-reading abilities fucking suck, stop trying, no one believes they work.

Are you saying that there is no such thing as military laws banning rape in war?

Are you saying that you are not trolling?

Yup you are supposed to try and apply theory into practice.

And you have to agree that sometimes real situations are not that simple and such simplified theory doesn't work.

This is a dumb argument. I guess we can't prohibit Muslim rape and grooming gangs. What if someone is racist and accuses an innocent Muslim and they get their life ruined. Oh gee I guess we can't enforce any laws, we can't punish robbery or murder because an innocent black guy could be accused in a gang and arrested.

Why are you too dumb to understand the fundamental difference between rape(real) and a mere allegation of rape by an enemy soldier with nothing to lose from lying?

Better to be safe and just not punish criminals.

So allegation makes a criminal, that's all it takes? Great, we're lucky you're not in charge of anything justice related.

This is stupid and any nation that follows your ideas will become a pariah hated by everyone.

Like holy shit do you think the American officers, or the president of the U.S. who prosecuted or refused to give a pardon to this guy are traitors?

John A. Bennett - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It was not a loose allegation thrown by fanatical enemy during a war.
It would be so retarded to do that few most desperate losing factions would even try, but apparently leftists and trolls do want this retardation to be functional - just have people surrender and accuse a enemy soldier of rape, so that the other guys have to arrest him - and then declare victory, because you can come up with more shameless liars than they have trained soldiers.

 

[King Arts]

They can be. I can show you video "evidence" of the yeti, Loch Ness monster and space aliens and then you can tell me if they are poor evidence or not.
But besides...

So you don't trust videos. So nothing will convince you and talking to you is as pointless as talking to a Hamas supporter. To you Israel did not rape, if it did rape however it is justified.

You know this reminds me of a parody of how Russians act online in regards to their conquest. Tell me have you done a DNA test to see how much Muscovite you are?

Now that's the weakest kind of video evidence in existence - one that exists only rumoredly. That's a step even below the yeti videos.
So you say there is video evidence and it's good, but no one can see it, but we are supposed to trust it as a fact. What you have done here constitutes better evidence of your own antisemitism than anything the Israeli soldiers did.

Multiple news sites have covered it and they aren't disputing a rape happened.

There is no evidence yet you want Jewish soldiers arrested because there is an allegation. So you are an antisemite by your own logic.
And no, i don't give a damn about the hypothetical radicals building settlements on the real estate in your head.
If you even bothered to read any decent article about this event you would know.

If I'm an anti semite then you are a rape supporter.
There are many decent articles. The vast majority condemn the despicable actions that Israel engaged in and tried to defend. It's only blatantly biased sources that state otherwise, so why should your sources that are not objective at all be trusted?

Mob protested the arrest of soldiers"
King Arts: NOOOOO, the mob protested the fact that there was even an investigation at all and want rape of Palestinians to be legal!
Sorry, but your mind-reading abilities fucking suck, stop trying, no one believes they work.

Why raping Palestinians is legitimate Israeli military practice

Sadism has long characterised Zionist colonists' treatment of Palestinians, rooted in orientalist views that Arabs only 'understand force' - including sexual violence

www.middleeasteye.net

U.S. decries reported sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners after graphic video aired on Israeli TV

“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.

www.nbcnews.com

And you have to agree that sometimes real situations are not that simple and such simplified theory doesn't work.

Yes sometimes the law isn't perfect. You should still try to implement it and have those who are bad face justice.

Why are you too dumb to understand the fundamental difference between rape(real) and a mere allegation of rape by an enemy soldier with nothing to lose from lying?

Are you too dumb to know that different cultures have vastly different values? I don't know if you live in a part of Poland that is super gay friendly and the fact that people think you having sucked dicks won't affect you. But some places if you are with a man, especially as the receptive partner, you can't really be looked at as a real man anymore. So yes Arab people who do see being gay as bad won't make up stories about themselves being involved in gay acts. Because that would hurt THEIR honor.

So allegation makes a criminal, that's all it takes? Great, we're lucky you're not in charge of anything justice related.

No if there is proof it's criminal
if there is an allegation then there should be an investigation, and people should not riot over investigations. Unless you are saying that guards should be allowed to anally penetrate prisoners?

It was not a loose allegation thrown by fanatical enemy during a war.
It would be so retarded to do that few most desperate losing factions would even try, but apparently leftists and trolls do want this retardation to be functional - just have people surrender and accuse a enemy soldier of rape, so that the other guys have to arrest him - and then declare victory, because you can come up with more shameless liars than they have trained soldiers.

It's not a loose allegation. It isn't even being fucking denied a Likud MP literally was not angry at "false convictions" but that soldiers were prohibited from inserting things into the rectums of other men.

 

[Marduk]

So you don't trust videos. So nothing will convince you and talking to you is as pointless as talking to a Hamas supporter. To you Israel did not rape, if it did rape however it is justified.

Yes, i don't trust videos unconditionally. Some videos at least, depending on many factors which i cannot determine without seeing the video in question. I have zero trust though towards "trust me bro there is a video, but i cannot tell you anything about what's in it, who has it, and where did it come from, and of course you can't see it". If you trust all videos collectively, guess go chase a yeti and stop bothering us with this bullshit.

You know this reminds me of a parody of how Russians act online in regards to their conquest. Tell me have you done a DNA test to see how much Muscovite you are?

Tell me you have done a DNA test to show how many chromosomes you have.

Multiple news sites have covered it and they aren't disputing a rape happened.

I think the "alleged" in the reporting of all remotely serious ones is quite a dispute. Your lack of reading comprehension and your trust for shitty sources is not my problem.

If I'm an anti semite then you are a rape supporter.

You are an antisemite, which you prove by your desperate evidence games here, and a fucking idiot on top of that.

There are many decent articles. The vast majority condemn the despicable actions that Israel engaged in and tried to defend. It's only blatantly biased sources that state otherwise, so why should your sources that are not objective at all be trusted?

Why raping Palestinians is legitimate Israeli military practice

Sadism has long characterised Zionist colonists' treatment of Palestinians, rooted in orientalist views that Arabs only 'understand force' - including sexual violence

www.middleeasteye.net

U.S. decries reported sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners after graphic video aired on Israeli TV

“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.

www.nbcnews.com

Ok, in the first video it is a journalist by the name of Rabia Iclal Turan asserting the video shows rape. I will claim bias here, as she is a working for Turkish state media.

Your NBC source, which i would considered the closest to decent out of the 3, starts its article with "Allegations of the sexual abuse". I sincerely hope you understand the difference between the term "allegations" and "evidence", but assuming you do, that should be the end of the story.
Here is what their journos claim is in the video:

Spoiler

Some of the footage, first noticed on the social media platform X on Tuesday and reviewed by NBC News, shows Palestinian detainees lying on the ground naked. In one video, a man is kicked in the stomach as he kneels, then spit on.


In the most graphic scene, soldiers stand around a group of blindfolded Palestinian men whose hands are tied behind their backs. Most of the detainees are shirtless or completely naked. An Israeli soldier can be seen stomping on the head of one Palestinian man who is on his back, his bound hands covering his face. The man cries out for his mother in Arabic. He is then dragged away, screaming.

Another man with a Palestinian accent wails repeatedly in Arabic: "God, I can't handle this."

Much of what is said in that video is not audible, but two phrases can be heard in Hebrew: "Anyone who shouldn't be here, please leave," and "Pick him up, move there."

Where's the rape? If the accusation was rough and humiliating treatment of prisoners, well it is somewhat rough. Ok, whatever, that's a separate discussion. Seems that Palestinians treat Israeli prisoners poorly too, so i can't find a reason to care. But rape? No mention there. If your fantasy adds it to the scene, oh well, also not my fantasy, nor evidence.


The other video also comes from Turkish state media. I think it is clear to anyone, Turkish state media above all, that they are not neutral and sympathize with Palestinian side strongly. They want to make a soundbite, the Israeli politician also wanted to make a soundbite for far right as to how much he doesn't give a shit, he's not part of the chain of command at all nor taking part in handling prisoners, everyone should be happy.

Yes sometimes the law isn't perfect. You should still try to implement it and have those who are bad face justice.

That's up to Israelis how they enforce and judge their law, not to you or me.

Are you too dumb to know that different cultures have vastly different values? I don't know if you live in a part of Poland that is super gay friendly and the fact that people think you having sucked dicks won't affect you. But some places if you are with a man, especially as the receptive partner, you can't really be looked at as a real man anymore. So yes Arab people who do see being gay as bad won't make up stories about themselves being involved in gay acts. Because that would hurt THEIR honor.

For purpose of war is one of few exceptions they have. Doubly so merely lying about it.

Egypt: Muslim Brotherhood Clerics Sanction 'Anal Jihad' for Lonely Militants Fighting Far From Their Wives

Egypt's prominent Islamic cleric accuses Brotherhood of authorising 'anal jihad'.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

Jihadists don't hold tribal honor above the cause of holy war.

No if there is proof it's criminal
if there is an allegation then there should be an investigation, and people should not riot over investigations. Unless you are saying that guards should be allowed to anally penetrate prisoners?

They do not riot over investigation, they riot about detainment over mere allegation made by treacherous enemy in middle of war.

It's not a loose allegation.

I judge is as loose allegation and think your judgement of the matter is shite.

It isn't even being fucking denied a Likud MP literally was not angry at "false convictions" but that soldiers were prohibited from inserting things into the rectums of other men.

I could go for a compromise - any prisoners hiding suspicious objects in the prison pocket should be executed as clearly scheming to kill guards and/or escape instead of having them extracted if people like you would consider it more acceptable.

 

[King Arts]

I could go for a compromise - any prisoners hiding suspicious objects in the prison pocket should be executed as clearly scheming to kill guards and/or escape instead of having them extracted if people like you would consider it more acceptable.

I’ll answer others later.
But yes I would have no problem with that.

 

[Marduk]

I’ll answer others later.
But yes I would have no problem with that.

Unfortunately some people far more important than both of us in Hague, Brussels and Washington absolutely would have a problem with that.

 

[Navarro]