Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

Marduk said:
This is clearly a parking spot for the vehicles, you can even see civilian cars in the spots next, so yeah, they got caught with their pants down, shame on them, but it can't be indicative of proper combat performance.
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No, because it's literally parked in the lane, not a parking spot.

Marduk said:
Dunno how this one got caught, but wouldn't be surprised if surprise was also involved.
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Same tank, different angle. It had a full crew and turret shows it was engaging targets.

 
History Learner said:
A truly galaxy brain take that won't have any negative blow-back for Israel, clearly:

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if Playing nice has never helped Isreal with its neighbors I expect they will simply write them off. The Two-State solution has been a complete failure for as long as it has been attempted. I would be fed up at this point. They have been dealing with random rockets raining on their country for how long? bluntly if they don't go for expelling them I would expect the populous to be less kind in the future when dealing with them. you don't want the mob to handle this. they will be worse.
 
Blasterbot said:
if Playing nice has never helped Isreal with its neighbors I expect they will simply write them off. The Two-State solution has been a complete failure for as long as it has been attempted. I would be fed up at this point. They have been dealing with random rockets raining on their country for how long? bluntly if they don't go for expelling them I would expect the populous to be less kind in the future when dealing with them. you don't want the mob to handle this. they will be worse.
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History Learner said:
A truly galaxy brain...
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I know you like using that phrase to make yourself sound smarter...
As for what the rest of the world/ME will think...Israel defending territory and attacking anyone anywhere will always be badly taken by its neighbors. That's a non-starter of a reason to hold back.
The threat from Hezbollah was always there, and is another thing to be invited by Israel so they can pull those fighters out of their hidey-holes and kill them.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
I know you like using that phrase to make yourself sound smarter...
As for what the rest of the world/ME will think...Israel defending territory and attacking anyone anywhere will always be badly taken by its neighbors. That's a non-starter of a reason to hold back.
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I'd agree, the reason to hold back is said states funneling money, equipment, and manpower to the insurgency that will result. Hamas launched 5,000+ rockets today, Hezbollah, according to the IDF, can do 100,000 for one example. Nevermind the ability of Saudi Arabia to engage in oil warfare.

The Whispering Monk said:
The threat from Hezbollah was always there, and is another thing to be invited by Israel so they can pull those fighters out of their hidey-holes and kill them.
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They tried that in 2006 and the 1980s. Want to know how that worked out for them? Their enemies are stronger today than ever before lol.

By all means though, I invite Israel to impale itself with its own stupidity, my only real concern is for all the civilians caught in the crossfire.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Oh I don't know...because Iran has a hate boner for Israel., and their government has vowed to exterminate the Jewish race.
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Dude have you met your average Iranian...ever? I did due to where I live...and they are not hating anyone besides the obvious. Iranian folk are not monolothic, just like the average lad from the US doesn't love Biden the average Iranian doesn't universally hate the State of Israel.
 
TheRejectionist said:
Dude have you met your average Iranian...ever? I did due to where I live...and they are not hating anyone besides the obvious. Iranian folk are not monolothic, just like the average lad from the US doesn't love Biden the average Iranian doesn't universally hate the State of Israel.
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Iranian diaspora is naturally not very representative of government supporting Iranians in Iran.
 
TheRejectionist said:
I am not talking about Iranian diaspora but the average Iranians from Iran that study in Italy and Europe.
So yeah, they are pretty representative considering they are not even first generation.
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They obviously speak good about other nations because they arnt going to get themselves kicked out of a country
 
TheRejectionist said:
I am not talking about Iranian diaspora but the average Iranians from Iran that study in Italy and Europe.
So yeah, they are pretty representative considering they are not even first generation.
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Why aren't they studying in all the glorious islamic revolutionary approved institutions in Iran then?
Obviously average Iranians from Iran are not allowed nor can afford to go study in Europe.
 
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