Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

LordsFire

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What...?

How is that even remotely comparable?

It really feels like you're reaching here.

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Are you sure about this? All I can find is that idols are bad and not to have any. Not to go out into the world and destroy them all. And idols don't equal other people.

Is that in some specific Jewish text I'm not aware of?

You are seriously comparing 'do not tolerate the worship of idols in the Kingdom of Israel' to 'go and conquer the world, put to the sword all who refuse to convert to Islam?'
 

Zachowon

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You do realize that many traditional Jewish rabbis have considered Christianity to be idolatry as Christians worship a man as god.
The SON of God in which God uses as a vessel to communicate with his followers and who died to forgive thier sins...
 

King Arts

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You are seriously comparing 'do not tolerate the worship of idols in the Kingdom of Israel' to 'go and conquer the world, put to the sword all who refuse to convert to Islam?'
You do realize that Jewish rules against worship of other gods applies to more than just the location of the Kingdom of Israel. Sure some of the laws only apply to certain people and within the borders of Israel. But are you going to claim that outside of Israel it's ok to worship other gods, or commit sodomy with other men? Judaism does say that EVERYONE must worship one god.




The SON of God in which God uses as a vessel to communicate with his followers and who died to forgive thier sins...
What Christianity thinks is not that relavent. Also the son of God is also God because of the trinity. The point is that Jews consider Christianity pagan polytheism and idolotry. I'm not giving biased sources so you or @LordsFire can say I'm being antisemetic. I'm using sources from Jews to show that Christianity and Judaism is completely different.


 

King Arts

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Where's the religious genocide tho?
You do realize that the 7 laws of Noah are to be applied to the whole world all of mankind yes.


In Judaism the rightful punishment for idolatry is death. Now that means lots of dead Buddhists, Shinto, Hindus, etc. But more importantly Christians since Jewish commentary has generally said that Christianity is idol worship and is not monotheism(unless you are unitarian)

Now sure Jews are like 1 percent of the population and won't be able to wipe out millions. But the same argument applies to Muslims they won't be able to militarily invade and occupy Christian nations. So are we talking about what the religion says should be done, or what it is capable of doing?

Sure Islam is stronger, but the victory condition of each is different. Sure Islam conquering Christian lands is bad, very bad 2nd class citizenship and Dhimmitude. But at least Christianity is still allowed to be, and is not illegal.
 

Husky_Khan

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You do realize that the 7 laws of Noah are to be applied to the whole world all of mankind yes.


In Judaism the rightful punishment for idolatry is death. Now that means lots of dead Buddhists, Shinto, Hindus, etc. But more importantly Christians since Jewish commentary has generally said that Christianity is idol worship and is not monotheism(unless you are unitarian)

Now sure Jews are like 1 percent of the population and won't be able to wipe out millions. But the same argument applies to Muslims they won't be able to militarily invade and occupy Christian nations. So are we talking about what the religion says should be done, or what it is capable of doing?

Sure Islam is stronger, but the victory condition of each is different. Sure Islam conquering Christian lands is bad, very bad 2nd class citizenship and Dhimmitude. But at least Christianity is still allowed to be, and is not illegal.

So Jews want to exterminate 99% of Humanity. Are there no Christians in Israel? Are there Muslims in Israel?
 
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King Arts

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So Jews want to exterminate 99% of Humanity. Are there no Christians in Israel? Are there Muslims in Israel?
You asked what the logical outcome of that is. After all I can throw this right back at you.

"So Muslims want to enslave 70 percent of humanity. Are there no free Christians or Jews in Egypt, Indonesia, Turkey, etc. Insert any random Muslim nation."

The religion of Islam would require certain things, so does Judaism, so does Christianity for that matter. It's just looking at the rulings of that religion and taking it to it's logical endpoint. Islam demands people convert to Islam, pay tribute(if Jewish, Muslim, or Zoroastrian), or die.

Christianity is more complicated as you can argue either way if you should force people into the faith or not.

Judaism does not require you to be a Jew, but it does require those who are not Jews to follow the 7 laws of Noah and be monotheists.
 

Husky_Khan

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You asked what the logical outcome of that is. After all I can throw this right back at you.

"So Muslims want to enslave 70 percent of humanity. Are there no free Christians or Jews in Egypt, Indonesia, Turkey, etc. Insert any random Muslim nation."

The religion of Islam would require certain things, so does Judaism, so does Christianity for that matter. It's just looking at the rulings of that religion and taking it to it's logical endpoint. Islam demands people convert to Islam, pay tribute(if Jewish, Muslim, or Zoroastrian), or die.

Christianity is more complicated as you can argue either way if you should force people into the faith or not.

Judaism does not require you to be a Jew, but it does require those who are not Jews to follow the 7 laws of Noah and be monotheists.

I never asked what the logical outcome is.

I'm interested in learning about how Jews want to exterminate 99% of Humanity.
 

King Arts

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I never asked what the logical outcome is.

I'm interested in learning about how Jews want to exterminate 99% of Humanity.
They won't just like Muslims won't enslave 70 percent of humanity. Both of those are stupid scenarios, and if one entertains either they are an idiot. Now is there a reason you are focusing on an idiotic thing?
 

Husky_Khan

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They won't just like Muslims won't enslave 70 percent of humanity. Both of those are stupid scenarios, and if one entertains either they are an idiot. Now is there a reason you are focusing on an idiotic thing?

I never asked about Muslims. I entered the conversation because you said Jews want to put 99% of Humanity to death.

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Clarified.
 
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TheRomanSlayer

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You asked what the logical outcome of that is. After all I can throw this right back at you.

"So Muslims want to enslave 70 percent of humanity. Are there no free Christians or Jews in Egypt, Indonesia, Turkey, etc. Insert any random Muslim nation."

The religion of Islam would require certain things, so does Judaism, so does Christianity for that matter. It's just looking at the rulings of that religion and taking it to it's logical endpoint. Islam demands people convert to Islam, pay tribute(if Jewish, Muslim, or Zoroastrian), or die.

Christianity is more complicated as you can argue either way if you should force people into the faith or not.

Judaism does not require you to be a Jew, but it does require those who are not Jews to follow the 7 laws of Noah and be monotheists.
But when it comes to defining what a Jew is, it can be problematic if you have a female Gentile convert to Judaism that marries an actual male Jew. Would the offspring be considered half-Jew or full Jew?
 

King Arts

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I never asked about Muslims. I entered the conversation because you said Jews want to put 99% of Humanity to death.

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Clarified.
I never said that you need better reading comprehension.

And I jumped in when someone was bitching about DarthOne saying he doesn’t care about either group. Then someone said “Muh Muslims want to conquer everyone.”
Then I brought up that traditional Jewish doctrine isn’t any better than the Muslim.

Then you jumped in with your brain dead take “Are Jews gonna wipe out all humanity?”
But when it comes to defining what a Jew is, it can be problematic if you have a female Gentile convert to Judaism that marries an actual male Jew. Would the offspring be considered half-Jew or full Jew?
Yes that is a complicated issue and different rabbis have different interpretations. I think most consider converts to be truly Jewish for marriage purposes but they may or may not be allowed to marry the priest class Kohens. I think @mrttao used to study at a synagogue so maybe he can answer some more.
 

mrttao

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Yes that is a complicated issue and different rabbis have different interpretations. I think most consider converts to be truly Jewish for marriage purposes but they may or may not be allowed to marry the priest class Kohens. I think @mrttao used to study at a synagogue so maybe he can answer some more.
Didn't study in a synagogue. just studied it in general while living in israel.
There are various sects.

You got the atheist jews who worship communism and the govt.
You have the "god fearer" cult who are just crazy. But are rapidly taking over due to providing free preschool/childcare for indoctrination purposes and having 12+ kids each while not working, all on the atheist taxpayer dime thanks to their strategy of selling votes for govt gibs.

You got the woke jews who want to exterminate all white jews. especially if they themselves are white. (I got a relative like that)
There are the LGBTQP jews who just want to molest kids.
You got the green cultist jews who think the world is ending and we need eco terrorists to save the day.

You got the banking "jews" who are a bunch of mixed blooded atheist who worship money and power and push all forms of degeneracy on everyone else.
Frankly jews are extremely fractured nowadays.

In israel at least. Abroad you got a super majority of woke cultists.
 
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Husky_Khan

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Then you jumped in with your brain dead take “Are Jews gonna wipe out all humanity?”

I never asked if the Jews are gonna wipe out all humanity. I never even implied asking it. You need better reading comprehension.

You should go back and read my posts. It should consist of a single line of text on most screens.

At the risk of repeating myself for a third or fourth time I suppose, I'm interested in learning about how Jews want to exterminate 99% of Humanity.

I never said that you need better reading comprehension.

You said it right here.

You are wrong about that. Judaism teaches to destroy idolatry. This is basic Old Testament stuff. And has been expanded upon by rabbis. Just because Jews haven’t been able to physically destroy or oppress Christians doesn’t mean that their faith doesn’t say that should happen to us.

You do realize that Jewish rules against worship of other gods applies to more than just the location of the Kingdom of Israel. Sure some of the laws only apply to certain people and within the borders of Israel. But are you going to claim that outside of Israel it's ok to worship other gods, or commit sodomy with other men? Judaism does say that EVERYONE must worship one god.

The point is that Jews consider Christianity pagan polytheism and idolotry. I'm not giving biased sources so you or @LordsFire can say I'm being antisemetic. I'm using sources from Jews to show that Christianity and Judaism is completely different.

You do realize that the 7 laws of Noah are to be applied to the whole world all of mankind yes.


In Judaism the rightful punishment for idolatry is death. Now that means lots of dead Buddhists, Shinto, Hindus, etc. But more importantly Christians since Jewish commentary has generally said that Christianity is idol worship and is not monotheism(unless you are unitarian)

Now sure Jews are like 1 percent of the population and won't be able to wipe out millions. But the same argument applies to Muslims they won't be able to militarily invade and occupy Christian nations. So are we talking about what the religion says should be done, or what it is capable of doing?

Sure Islam is stronger, but the victory condition of each is different. Sure Islam conquering Christian lands is bad, very bad 2nd class citizenship and Dhimmitude. But at least Christianity is still allowed to be, and is not illegal.
 
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