Immigration and multiculturalism news

[ATP]

Compilation from polish press:

1.Tusk was against Wall on Belarus border before election,now support it after he lost local elections.
I bet,that after presidential elections,no matter who win,Tusk would remove it.

2.Illegal migration mean also slavery - young woman are made to become prostitutes,and their progressive clients do not care.
But - catholic Church still help them.

3. 25% of german population are either migrants,or have at least one migrant parent.Muslims usually even do not speak germans,and live in their own gettos.

And,60% of rapist in gang rapes are not even german citizens.
Especially Syrian,Turks,Afgani and people from Iraq commit many rapes.
Only german party who want to fight it is Adf - but they are target not only of other parties,but also churches,including catholic church.
Well,considering that germans are practically pagans now,it do not matter.

 

[DarthOne]

going to be a global thing, not just in Ireland but across the entire western world.

I hope so.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Meanwhile, in Ireland apparently...

I always love when the people make their demands clear, and the answer from the government is big fat "NO".
At that point there's no democracy, it's only tyranny, and tyrants have to go.

 

[mrttao]

One thing that I don’t know is mentioned and discussed enough is with all the jobs illegals alien take

I wish they came here to take jobs. over 90% of them are on welfare instead

Yeah saw that video and that's bad but those charities are set up I hope in good faith

vast majority of charities are scams.
it is a struggle to find honest charities.

Whether or not you believe an unborn infant is a human being, pro-lifers do. Would you have any respect at all for us if we ignored that?

In my dark past I was pro abortion and I had zero respect for conservatives for just... letting such mass amount of what THEY believe to be mass murder to occur.
I just cannot fathom how someone can believe in a soul, and not start a civil war over this.

 

[DarthOne]

I just cannot fathom how someone can believe in a soul, and not start a civil war over this.

Believe me, I know how you feel sometimes.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I just cannot fathom how someone can believe in a soul, and not start a civil war over this.

This is definitely something I and many Christians struggle with.

My feelings on the matter are simply that I can't stop one sin by committing another.

 

[S'task]

In my dark past I was pro abortion and I had zero respect for conservatives for just... letting such mass amount of what THEY believe to be mass murder to occur.
I just cannot fathom how someone can believe in a soul, and not start a civil war over this.

Believe me, I know how you feel sometimes.

There was a period of time, from the 1970s through the mid-1990s that saw a series of what amounted to domestic terrorist attacks against Abortion "clinics" and targeted assassinations of abortion "doctors".

The result, due to the media being all in for Abortion, was that Abortion saw it's highest levels of support and the Pro-life movement was systematically smeared and marginalized and we got numerous laws that arguably violated the 1st Amendment's Right of Assembly and Speech passed that explicitly protected abortion providers carving out special protections for them against protestors that were upheld by the courts due to these heightened risk of violence.

Violence as a tactic only works when the media and other elites give it tacit support, when they oppose it any violence becomes a highly effective weapon against your political goals. As we also saw again deployed against the right with Jan. 6th, even as much worse riots and actions by the Left were lauded.

Thus the pro-life movement was in a situation where if they wanted to achieve their goals they needed to minimize violence in order to actually try and win the fight they were having, that was, the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. The movement generally adopted that because why yes it is infuriating if we wanted to actually succeed in our goal rather than just lash out against evil we had to.

You can even see the continued effects of this today with how there's been multiple firebombing of Pro-life locations that are basically ignored by the media and the investigation slow walked by the FBI, all while even the most minimal of protests that end up within those special protections of abortionist see the Federal government coming down on the pro-lifers hard.

 

[mrttao]

There was a period of time, from the 1970s through the mid-1990s that saw a series of what amounted to domestic terrorist attacks against Abortion "clinics" and targeted assassinations of abortion "doctors".

The result, due to the media being all in for Abortion, was that Abortion saw it's highest levels of support and the Pro-life movement was systematically smeared and marginalized and we got numerous laws that arguably violated the 1st Amendment's Right of Assembly and Speech passed that explicitly protected abortion providers carving out special protections for them against protestors that were upheld by the courts due to these heightened risk of violence.

Violence as a tactic only works when the media and other elites give it tacit support, when they oppose it any violence becomes a highly effective weapon against your political goals. As we also saw again deployed against the right with Jan. 6th, even as much worse riots and actions by the Left were lauded.

Thus the pro-life movement was in a situation where if they wanted to achieve their goals they needed to minimize violence in order to actually try and win the fight they were having, that was, the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. The movement generally adopted that because why yes it is infuriating if we wanted to actually succeed in our goal rather than just lash out against evil we had to.

You can even see the continued effects of this today with how there's been multiple firebombing of Pro-life locations that are basically ignored by the media and the investigation slow walked by the FBI, all while even the most minimal of protests that end up within those special protections of abortionist see the Federal government coming down on the pro-lifers hard.

1. I said civil war, not terrorism. States should have secceeded over this, and then the federal govt would have attacked them. which would have sparked the second civil war.

2. As you noted, a few isolated incidents were the justification for the special protections for abortion. meanwhile antifa and BLM who used mass violence got what they wanted. This just shows that the problem is the scope. it is not that "violence ineffective", it is that "only one guy every couple of years in a country of 300m being willing to resort to violence will see your position clamped down on"

3. You noted it yourself. terrorist attacks against pro life movement are covered up by the media and MSM. This just shows that there is no win scenario while MSM, govt, and education are all in opponent hands
This is not an indication of "violence is effective/ineffective", it is an indication of "having total control over society is very useful for pushing a position"

 

[LordDemiurge]

wish they came here to take jobs. over 90% of them are on welfare instead

One notion that the Right should discard is the idea that replacement is a means to some profit motive and an end in and of itself.

I think many are deeply unnerved/terrified of this notion.

 

[mrttao]

One notion that the Right should discard is the idea that replacement is a means to some profit motive and an end in and of itself.

I think many are deeply unnerved/terrified of this notion.

Can you rephrase this, I am not sure what you are trying to say here

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

One notion that the Right should discard is the idea that replacement is a means to some profit motive and an end in and of itself.

I think many are deeply unnerved/terrified of this notion.

Frankly I think it's a dysgenics experiment, they're trying to make a race of multi-culti people who are just smart enough to work, but dumb enough to not question anything.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Are the Euros only angry about Muslim immigrants or immigrants in general?

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Are the Euros only angry about Muslim immigrants or immigrants in general?

They're generally angry at black immigrants (crime) muslim/arab immigrants (rape) and indian immigrants (steal jobs/housing).

Because they're the ONLY sources of mass migration, whoever heard of the great Finnish invasion of 2023 where 2 million Fins invaded Britain or something?

 

[LordsFire]

Are the Euros only angry about Muslim immigrants or immigrants in general?

Unlike certain radicals on this forum, actual right-wing commentators and politicians in Britain and Europe usually make 2 points:

1. There's no good reason for all this mass migration in the first place.
2. Not holding immigrants to the same standards and laws as natives is utterly inexcusable on every level.

The longer that the migration has gone on, and the worse the double standard gets, the more people, both 'common voter' and 'notable commentator/politician' types, that have somewhat more radical responses.

I follow media from The Lotus Eaters, and they will from time to time comment that there's usually no trouble with the Indian/Hindu immigrants in the UK, but Muslims, mostly Pakistani but also from other nations, are behind a lot of problems, and also cause problems with the Indian/Hindu immigrants that don't crop up where there's just the Hindus.

 

[DarthOne]

There are days that I find myself teetering on the edge of the ‘throw them all out, because as we’ve seen, as soon as they get into a position of power, they immediately start trying to use the system to better their own people over the natives’.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

There are days that I find myself teetering on the edge of the ‘throw them all out, because as we’ve seen, as soon as they get into a position of power, they immediately start trying to use the system to better their own people over the natives’.

Every race but liberal Whites has strong in-group bias. It's perfectly natural and I won't fault anybody for having one.
But that does mean they have to stay the hell away unless they choose to aid natives over foreigners.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

There are days that I find myself teetering on the edge of the ‘throw them all out, because as we’ve seen, as soon as they get into a position of power, they immediately start trying to use the system to better their own people over the natives’.

Needless and excessive.

As LordsFire pointed out, Hindus and Sikhs in Britain cause us little trouble. That extends to our valiant Gurkhas as well.

Something I think that distinguishes them from more recent arrivals (the same could be said of people from the West Indies, ruined as their descendants have been by gangster culture), is to do with the Second World War. Not that “we needed them to rebuild”, but when the King-Emperor called them to war, they came in their millions.

Though the Empire is gone, loyalty to Britain still beats in their hearts. And even though I’d drastically limit the numbers coming in, these children of Pax Britannica are always welcome.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

follow media from The Lotus Eaters, and they will from time to time comment that there's usually no trouble with the Indian/Hindu immigrants in the UK, but Muslims, mostly Pakistani but also from other nations, are behind a lot of problems, and also cause problems with the Indian/Hindu immigrants that don't crop up where there's just the Hindus.

What's Lotus Eaters? I get the reference to Greek myth, of course.

And isn't that just because there are very few Hindus and Sikhs? But then again, I've rarely ever heard of them causing too much trouble, besides that famous caste discrimination case in California.

 

[DarthOne]

Needless and excessive.

As LordsFire pointed out, Hindus and Sikhs in Britain cause us little trouble. That extends to our valiant Gurkhas as well.

Something I think that distinguishes them from more recent arrivals (the same could be said of people from the West Indies, ruined as their descendants have been by gangster culture), is to do with the Second World War. Not that “we needed them to rebuild”, but when the King-Emperor called them to war, they came in their millions.

Though the Empire is gone, loyalty to Britain still beats in their hearts. And even though I’d drastically limit the numbers coming in, these children of Pax Britannica are always welcome.

As I said, teetering on the idea. That and I worry about Our Side fighting, winning…only to end up back in the same mess because we didn’t go far enough. Of course, going too far has its own dangers and pitfalls.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

What's Lotus Eaters? I get the reference to Greek myth, of course.

And isn't that just because there are very few Hindus and Sikhs? But then again, I've rarely ever heard of them causing too much trouble, besides that famous caste discrimination case in California.

In Canada, the Sikh community holds a lot of political influence despite being small in numbers, and most of them are sympathetic to the Khalistan movement. Even Jagmeet Singh has expressed some kind of support for such a movement, and in a large area close to where I live, there was the assassination of Hardeep Singh Nijjar.