Immigration and multiculturalism news

[TheRomanSlayer]

The only thing that I have to raise a fuss is that the problem of brain drain from Third World countries would make things even worse for them in the long run, as you'd deprive the Third World countries of its talented and well educated people. Why do I say this? Because if the Third World is to truly fix their own problems, they have to find a way to reverse the brain drain. This means foreign direct investment in the economies of the Third World nations, and giving incentives to the people who immigrated to First World nations to come back and contribute to the development of their original homelands.

That being said, my homeland also faces this kind of problem too, and eventually we will come to a point where we cannot rely on immigration to make our homeland much better. There has to be an effective way of actually developing the society in question without having to resort to such a thing. There may be a time where we would eventually have to return to our homeland, and introduce the things that we grew accustomed to when we lived overseas.

Most importantly, Europe itself is not built like the post colonial nations formed from former colonies. The 'diversity' there has turned out to be rather infamous, to the point where far right extremists are milking the problem for all its worth.

 

[WolfBear]

Australia's probably least bad of the bunch, but they still have issues.
Like Lebanese gangs and islamists.
I think the best system would be tailored to a given country's needs, if the need for immigration is real as opposed to just business lobby's appetite for flooding labor supply to make it ever cheaper (hint: it will never be too cheap according to them). And for that, some combination of historically most successful systems would be best. Of course meritocratic, with limits requiring cultural compatibility of the immigrants, both in short and long term, possibly also with set contracts requiring settlement and work in certain professions and\or locations at a time that happen to have a strategic need for workers not filled by natives, as opposed to drawing immigrants to just most desirable in general cities, swiping nice jobs and real estate from the reach natives wallets, and with included clause for swift and unconditional punitive deportation of troublemakers. So something between Australia, Poland, and even outright medieval "charter city" immigration.


Well if in some cases flunking the test is rewarded, then it's a stupid design of the system, try again. The issue with using proxies too much in the system is that their accuracy is limited, sometimes outright skewed if your education system is not a well oiled machine, like the shitshow angloshere's universities are right now. And that inaccuracy compounds with each use of the proxy in the system.


But do they even want to come to Britain, and wouldn't they stay Modi supporters?

Do Canada and New Zealand have it even worse than Australia? I'm genuinely surprised to hear that. I thought that their Muslims were examples of successful integration, after all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-muslim-canadians-environics-1.3551591

Interesting commentary. Poland, of course, also benefits by importing culturally compatible Ukrainians.

Fair points.

Money speaks very loudly, you know?

 

[WolfBear]

The only thing that I have to raise a fuss is that the problem of brain drain from Third World countries would make things even worse for them in the long run, as you'd deprive the Third World countries of its talented and well educated people. Why do I say this? Because if the Third World is to truly fix their own problems, they have to find a way to reverse the brain drain. This means foreign direct investment in the economies of the Third World nations, and giving incentives to the people who immigrated to First World nations to come back and contribute to the development of their original homelands.

That being said, my homeland also faces this kind of problem too, and eventually we will come to a point where we cannot rely on immigration to make our homeland much better. There has to be an effective way of actually developing the society in question without having to resort to such a thing. There may be a time where we would eventually have to return to our homeland, and introduce the things that we grew accustomed to when we lived overseas.

Most importantly, Europe itself is not built like the post colonial nations formed from former colonies. The 'diversity' there has turned out to be rather infamous, to the point where far right extremists are milking the problem for all its worth.

This assumes that the brains of the developing world actually belongs to those countries, which I disagree with. I do think that the developed world should be encouraged to give incentives to some of its own smart people to resettle in the developing world, though, whether temporarily or permanently. And the developed world should also make sperm banks much more accessible for the developing world in order to promote eugenic fertility there.

 

[Marduk]

Do Canada and New Zealand have it even worse than Australia? I'm genuinely surprised to hear that. I thought that their Muslims were examples of successful integration, after all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-muslim-canadians-environics-1.3551591

Canada is fucking infamous for treating their "diversity", including islamists, with kid's gloves for a reason.
Of course they are very happy with that, no need to ask them, that much is obvious.
But are the rest of Canadians happy with shit like this?

Canadian Government To Pay Islamic Terrorist $10.5 Million | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Interesting commentary. Poland, of course, also benefits by importing culturally compatible Ukrainians.

Fair points.

If anything, that shows the significance of cultural compatibility in alleviating social tensions normally related to immigration, demonstrated on not exactly pro-immigration territory.
Of course it also got the usual suspects to whine about hypocrisy and discrimination.

AOC: ‘Stark contrast’ between treatment of Syrian and Ukrainian refugees

AOC, like all Leftists, sees racism everywhere. There are over 100,000 Afghans newly arrived in the United States to show she's wrong. "AOC says US should be treating all refugees the way the world is treating Ukrainian refugees," by Sarah Al-Arshani, Business Insider, March 2, 2022: Democratic...

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Money speaks very loudly, you know?

Well you can get them to pretend whatever you want them to pretend to be for money, but whether that's good enough as opposed to real belief and worth the money are two other questions.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

This assumes that the brains of the developing world actually belongs to those countries, which I disagree with. I do think that the developed world should be encouraged to give incentives to some of its own smart people to resettle in the developing world, though, whether temporarily or permanently. And the developed world should also make sperm banks much more accessible for the developing world in order to promote eugenic fertility there.

And how will the developing world deal with imported diversities in this case? It's not easy for the brains of the developed world to relocate to the developing world, as they would need to adapt to the lifestyle of the countries in question.

Canada is fucking infamous for treating their "diversity", including islamists, with kid's gloves for a reason.
Of course they are very happy with that, no need to ask them, that much is obvious.
But are the rest of Canadians happy with shit like this?

I would be pissed off about it, actually.

 

[WolfBear]

And how will the developing world deal with imported diversities in this case? It's not easy for the brains of the developed world to relocate to the developing world, as they would need to adapt to the lifestyle of the countries in question.

It would be done similar to the Peace Corps or perhaps as a part of some kind of neo-colonial arrangement, where the West and/or East Asia provides the developing world with engineers, doctors, healthcare professionals, scientists, railway construction workers, et cetera. China is already doing something similar to this in Africa right now:

China Paving 'Health Silk Road' in Africa

Reasons behind China’s investments in African health care range from influence and economics to accusations of espionage

www.voanews.com

Bless the Chinese in this specific case!

 

[Marduk]

It would be done similar to the Peace Corps or perhaps as a part of some kind of neo-colonial arrangement, where the West and/or East Asia provides the developing world with engineers, doctors, healthcare professionals, scientists, railway construction workers, et cetera. China is already doing something similar to this in Africa right now:

Who is going to handle the political side of it, enforce all the contracts and assurances in such an extremely long term investment (we are talking decades minimum, centuries more likely), regardless of the changing political climates, especially democracies on both sides of the deal, and then make sure that not only there is a profit to begin with, but it is shared?
It's basically the political version of mission impossible. There are so many failure points that failure is near certain, and the costs, gigantic.
You basically need rule by immortal, hyper-competent and practically unstoppable God-Emperor to pull it off.

China's version of it is considerably simpler and less ambitious - strikes out democratic uncertainties whenever possible, whatever humanitarian or infrastructure stuff they do that isn't for own operational purposes is considered essentially payment for the other side, aka pork, aka if there is corruption or otherwise it doesn't work as intended they don't care, they don't care about the investment part much in grand economy\demographic terms, just relatively secure and effective resource production, and China itself will handle the resources afterwards.
And even then, seems like at least some of these long term projects, even in China's minimal variant, will fall to political turmoil.

 

[DarthOne]

English Heritage promote fake history for Black History Month

The Immigration Plot Is Working

https://www.lotuseaters.com/weekend-segments-or-9th-october-2022

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The Immigration Plot Is Working

• Says "Stacey Abrams wants to give illegal aliens the right to vote." - Politifact
• Immigration to the United States - Wiki
• Southwest Land Border Encounters - US Customs and Borders
• Night after night, the host of the most-watched show in prime-time cable news uses a simple narrative to instill fear in his viewers: 'They' want to control and then destroy 'you'. - NY Times
• Data: Foreign-Born Voting Population Rises in 75% of Swing States Since 2016 - Breitbart
• “But you don’t look Turkish!”: The Changing Face of Turkish Immigration to Germany - Reset Dialogues
• Most Cuban American voters identify as Republican in 2020 - Pew Research Center

 

[f1onagher]

Now this is just funny, NIMBYism at its finest.

"There is no precedent for this."

*Texas, New Mexico, California, and Arizona for the last several decades*

I get that political face requires some deliberate obtuseness, but can none of these jackasses ever stop and address the point? Voters like it when politicians are even a little bit candid and honest. Its dead simple for a northeastern Democrat to say that they value immigration as a core principle of the American dream, but maybe the border states have some legitimate complaints and someone else should fix this problem. Its easy rhetoric and passes the buck upstream.

 

[WolfBear]

"There is no precedent for this."

*Texas, New Mexico, California, and Arizona for the last several decades*

I get that political face requires some deliberate obtuseness, but can none of these jackasses ever stop and address the point? Voters like it when politicians are even a little bit candid and honest. Its dead simple for a northeastern Democrat to say that they value immigration as a core principle of the American dream, but maybe the border states have some legitimate complaints and someone else should fix this problem. Its easy rhetoric and passes the buck upstream.

FWIW, if it's actually legal, I actually do think that sending migrants to liberal states/areas is better than sending them back to Mexico or Central America or wherever.

 

[DarthOne]

The unaccompanied child migrant scam for cross-Channel illegal immigrants to Britain

We are solemnly informed in the news this morning that more than a hundred child migrants have gone missing from hotels where they were placed by the authorities, after arriving on small boats crossing the English Channel. This is quite untrue. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63231470

 

[DarthOne]

Spoiler

#France Rennes: Islamist fanatics attack police with projectiles and firing mortars as they demand schools allow religious clothes for student - abayas and qamis. Police arrested 14 students and three officers were injured in the attack.




Klaus Arminius

@Klaus_Arminius


Two days after the attack, school have announced they will allow the predominantly Muslim students the ‘religious freedom’ to wear their clothes. Students declared victory: “We weren't allowed to wear abayas, and now, the school is letting us wear them”

A reminder that Islam is on no side but its own.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Spoiler

#France Rennes: Islamist fanatics attack police with projectiles and firing mortars as they demand schools allow religious clothes for student - abayas and qamis. Police arrested 14 students and three officers were injured in the attack.


Klaus Arminius
@Klaus_Arminius


Two days after the attack, school have announced they will allow the predominantly Muslim students the ‘religious freedom’ to wear their clothes. Students declared victory: “We weren't allowed to wear abayas, and now, the school is letting us wear them”

A reminder that Islam is on no side but its own.

So they literally just capitulated to terrorists thus encouraging them to continue to do more shit like that.

 

[DarthOne]

So they literally just capitulated to terrorists thus encouraging them to continue to do more shit like that.

Sadly so.

 

[WolfBear]

Flight From White, Part MCCXXVI: "Rick Caruso Declares He's Not White Because He's Italian" | Blog Posts

From NBC News: Los Angeles mayoral candidate...

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Why exactly can't Italian-Americans be considered Latino? And for that matter French-Americans as well? But especially Italian-Americans such as Rick Caruso who would look like they're right at home in Latin America:

Some Mediterranean-Americans, including some Italian-Americans and Greek-Americans, are fairly dark-skinned, FWIW. By no means all of them, of course, but the ones who are certainly deserve to be considered people of color, IMHO.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Flight From White, Part MCCXXVI: "Rick Caruso Declares He's Not White Because He's Italian" | Blog Posts

From NBC News: Los Angeles mayoral candidate...

vdare.com

Why exactly can't Italian-Americans be considered Latino? And for that matter French-Americans as well? But especially Italian-Americans such as Rick Caruso who would look like they're right at home in Latin America:

Some Mediterranean-Americans, including some Italian-Americans and Greek-Americans, are fairly dark-skinned, FWIW. By no means all of them, of course, but the ones who are certainly deserve to be considered people of color, IMHO.

So POC is totally the new "Colored" term and its kind of funny because we are literally going right back to Jim Crow.

 

[WolfBear]

Flight From White, Part MCCXXVI: "Rick Caruso Declares He's Not White Because He's Italian" | Blog Posts

From NBC News: Los Angeles mayoral candidate...

vdare.com

Why exactly can't Italian-Americans be considered Latino? And for that matter French-Americans as well? But especially Italian-Americans such as Rick Caruso who would look like they're right at home in Latin America:

Some Mediterranean-Americans, including some Italian-Americans and Greek-Americans, are fairly dark-skinned, FWIW. By no means all of them, of course, but the ones who are certainly deserve to be considered people of color, IMHO.

Can you really say that this specific Italian is actually "white", for instance?

 

[WolfBear]

So POC is totally the new "Colored" term and its kind of funny because we are literally going right back to Jim Crow.

lol we won't be seeing anti-miscegenation laws. Or forced segregation. But racial preferences could survive in a more subtle form if the US Supreme Court will strike them down in their explicit form.

 

[WolfBear]

Also, is Italian-American Ariana Grande actually "white"?

Or at least should she actually be viewed as being "white"?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

lol we won't be seeing anti-miscegenation laws. Or forced segregation. But racial preferences could survive in a more subtle form if the US Supreme Court will strike them down in their explicit form.

No we are going back to Jim Crow except now being "White" whatever that means is the bad thing.