Imperium of Man vs Galactic Empire

[Aldarion]

By act of ROB, Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40 000 and the Galactic Empire from Star Wars are dropped into a single mega-galaxy, side-to-side. Imperium of Man is from after Guilliman's return while Galactic Empire is from the Return of the Jedi era. There is no Great Rift, Eye of Terror, or other magical sheningians, though rebellions do continue. Firepower is equalized per ton - so basically, if there are two warships of 10 million tons, both will have about equal firepower in terms of maximum energy output per minute.

Who wins?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Now I am a MAJOR SW fanboy but I'd have to say the Galactic Empire would lose after giving a mid difficulty fight.

Their main advantages would be industry and mobility but they'd only win fights where they can heavily concentrate their forces to have numerical advantage (Even with Firepower more or less equalized the GE ships have smaller combat engagement range and are very susceptible to ramming and boarding), this would diminish as they come across fortified planets.

On the other hand Galactic Empire planets are hardly fortified so Imperium fleets would have an easy time achieving orbital supremacy and a few thousand Stormtroopers as a garrison on most planets would just be a speed bump.


Only way I see the GE pulling out a win is if the Emperor can get his Exegol ships expedited (There was a few hundred already created just outfitting their weapons remained) and then went around blowing up Imperium planets. Without that the Imperium grinds them to dust.

 

[DarthOne]

Are using Disney or Legends for the Empire?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hmmm Star Wars Hyperspeed still faster and more reliable then 40K Warp despite lack of Warp Shenanigans in this MEGA GALAXY?!?!?!

 

[Scooby Doo]

Hmmm Star Wars Hyperspeed still faster and more reliable then 40K Warp despite lack of Warp Shenanigans in this MEGA GALAXY?!?!?!

My opinion personally while faster it'll have diminishing returns as the GE burn through their resources (Fleets/Experienced Officers) quicker, if you get to a fight quicker but every victory is a pyrrhic victory and the faster FTL the faster they get there to die lol

 

[Aldarion]

Are using Disney or Legends for the Empire?

Disney by default, Legends if Disney gets Vlad Dracula'd.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

My opinion personally while faster it'll have diminishing returns as the GE burn through their resources (Fleets/Experienced Officers) quicker, if you get to a fight quicker but every victory is a pyrrhic victory and the faster FTL the faster they get there to die lol

Well if the warp isn't a clusterfuck hell dimension then Imperium ships would be able to match if not outright surpass the speed of SW ships.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

The Imperium of Man is already in possession of one of the most formidable war machines in fiction. And in this scenario, the avenging son himself, a tactician and strategist oh so far beyond even someone like Thrawn, is in undisputed command. Not to mention the Imperium's armies and fleets are battle experienced and operate under a doctrine of conflict with somewhat peer powers.

For the Galactic Empire's Imperial Navy, out of practice from serious warfare for twenty years, and having spent a lot of tiring time trying to catch the smoke that is the Rebel Alliance, the Imperium's Imperial Navy would be a nasty shock.

The Empire is promptly crushed.

 

[Agent23]

40k wins.
No Chaos to fuck with them and a calm warp means thet they can use everything they have, parkers, starships, other bits of tech, to it's fullest potential.

 

[King Arts]

Well if the warp isn't a clusterfuck hell dimension then Imperium ships would be able to match if not outright surpass the speed of SW ships.

I don’t think so. What is the average top speed of a ship to go from one side of the galaxy to another. Star Wars is either a week or a month. While 40k does have some faster times like showing up BEFORE they left. Crossing the galaxy in under a year is still not really a thing. Hell a slow time from one sector to another is 100 years and this is a sector not the galaxy. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if top speed from one side to the galaxy to another without stopping is 10 years.

Now the Imperium having Guiliman in charge means they can be smart and steal star was hyperdrive so they would win eventually.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I don’t think so. What is the average top speed of a ship to go from one side of the galaxy to another. Star Wars is either a week or a month. While 40k does have some faster times like showing up BEFORE they left. Crossing the galaxy in under a year is still not really a thing. Hell a slow time from one sector to another is 100 years and this is a sector not the galaxy. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if top speed from one side to the galaxy to another without stopping is 10 years.

Now the Imperium having Guiliman in charge means they can be smart and steal star was hyperdrive so they would win eventually.

That travel time is only that slow because the Warp is absolutely fucked. In the SW galaxy it would presumably be in a state comparable to before the War in Heaven.

 

[King Arts]

That travel time is only that slow because the Warp is absolutely fucked. In the SW galaxy it would presumably be in a state comparable to before the War in Heaven.

How fast was that is my question. Also technology matters too. Eldar, Necron, old one ftl is more advanced than Imperium ftl drive. Without chaos are you saying they could cross the galaxy in a day?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

How fast was that is my question. Also technology matters too. Eldar, Necron, old one ftl is more advanced than Imperium ftl drive. Without chaos are you saying they could cross the galaxy in a day?

Necrons use actual FTL travel rather the warp, That said warp travel in a situation to where the warp isn't fucked up would be like Webway travel which is almost instant

 

[Agent23]

Necrons use actual FTL travel rather the warp, That said warp travel in a situation to where the warp isn't fucked up would be like Webway travel which is almost instant

Necron FTL aside for the Dolmen gates is shit.

When the war in haven started one of the reasons their asses were handed to them was because they were painfully slow compared to the Old Ones, who had mastery of the Warp.

All other races aside for the Nids use some form of Warp-dependant travel.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Are Orkz and Tyranids still kicking around?

Imperium is much more militarised, with population and economy adjusted towards supporting large scale military operations, so the early advantage would certainly go to the Imperium, but a whole galaxy is a lot to digest and unlike Great Crusade they are fighting an unified enemy. The IoM xenocidal attitude will mean that GE will be able to turn mobilisation of population and industry into popular movement, while IoM will have to deal with desperate guerrillas on most worlds they conquer, so after early fast advances they will gradually slow down, but I doubt GE would be able to ever stop them, the campaigns for the core systems would be absolutely brutal but after they fall the rest of GE would fall fast.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Necron FTL aside for the Dolmen gates is shit.

When the war in haven started one of the reasons their asses were handed to them was because they were painfully slow compared to the Old Ones, who had mastery of the Warp.

All other races aside for the Nids use some form of Warp-dependant travel.

The Necrons only used Dolem Gates to break into the warp so they could kill the old ones there. Aside from that their FTL doesn't use the warp at all. They somehow alter their mass so they can move at faster than light speed in the physical universe.

 

[ATP]

By act of ROB, Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40 000 and the Galactic Empire from Star Wars are dropped into a single mega-galaxy, side-to-side. Imperium of Man is from after Guilliman's return while Galactic Empire is from the Return of the Jedi era. There is no Great Rift, Eye of Terror, or other magical sheningians, though rebellions do continue. Firepower is equalized per ton - so basically, if there are two warships of 10 million tons, both will have about equal firepower in terms of maximum energy output per minute.

Who wins?

Empire have faster communication and ships,so they win war,even if they lost many battles.
It is not important that you have,let say,super duper titans and Astartes,if they win one battle in time when Empire attacked 100 other worlds/and win,becouse IG is shitty/

 

[Aldarion]

Are Orkz and Tyranids still kicking around?

No.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Empire have faster communication and ships,so they win war,even if they lost many battles.
It is not important that you have,let say,super duper titans and Astartes,if they win one battle in time when Empire attacked 100 other worlds/and win,becouse IG is shitty/

I kinda disagree that those advantages would be enough tbh, remember the GE is spread thin their sectors aren't as heavily defended as the Imperium 's.

A fleet for the Galactic Empire would take significantly longer to capture or destroy a world than it would for the Imperium, aka getting to the objective first goes to GE but actually accomplishing the objective would favor the Imperium.


Imperium territory in general is more heavily fortified than the planets held by the Galactic Empire, let's not forget a LOT of Galactic Empire planets in both canons only number in the millions of population there's only a handful of planets that reach billions or higher. In contrast some Imperium worlds hold hundreds of billions to trillions of humans, that would take hundreds of Star Destroyers and potentially years to conquer one planet.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Thing is if Warp is still unstable without being Daemon plagued it can still take the Imperium weeks, months, years, even decades to react to serious incursions. So Imperium worlds and systems tend to be more well defended but in part due to necessity.

Galactic Empire can bonk some sectors for years without reprisal in some respects in theory.

An Imperium Crusade with less distractions would be hard to stop but Imperium is dealing with lots of inertia even if it's a better situation now due to lack of Xenos threats just from the way the Imperium is structured.