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Libertatis Imperium (Gate)

Bear Ribs

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Good for them,but,considering only uniforms,locals could do that by themselves.
For example,in poland we have uprising against germans in 1919 in Poznań - we win,and local people raised army there - weapon was buyed and later captured from germans,but uniforms mostly made by locals.
There is no reasons,why locals in Alnus Hill could not do the same.
Cloth is one of the most stupidly labor-intensive things in the universe until industrialization makes power looms a thing. A good set of clothes for people at that developmental level is like a good car for us.

It's not totally one-sided as their clothes were always custom-tailored and fitted much better than ours do. But, well, if you start looking at fairy tales you might notice just how many of those focus on "And they magically and easily made clothes/shoes" because they were so rare and pricey.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
On a related tangent, another thing that was an *extreme* luxury item in the medieval to Renaissance era which became trivial to make later on is mirrors.

The Hall of Mirrors in the Versailles palace is "only" Renaissance era, and it would still utterly astound and intimidate anyone from the medieval era, because in the medieval era, the very richest sovereigns in the world might own *one* mirror of the size and quality of those found in the Hall. Even by the time of the Renaissance, such a mirror was worth as much as a small farmstead, and Venice was literally the only place in all Europe that could make such mirrors. That's why the Hall is the ultimate showpiece of Versailles -- it is literally lined with over three hundred mirrors of the finest quality, in a stunning demonstration of France's newfound industrial might in that era and an epic reveal of the fact that they'd completely reverse-engineered Venice's long-held secret mirror making techniques.

Seriously. Anyone from the far side of the Gate seeing a woman check her appearance in a compact mirror would immediately conclude that they must be stupendously wealthy, because a mirror of *that* size is something that the *very* richest of merchants might be able to afford, but those were the *only* type of mirrors that someone who wasn't *at least* serious nobility could ever imagine possessing.
 

WyrmofFrost

Wandering Muse Seeker
Have some more stuff I worked up. @charclone

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charclone

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Have some more stuff I worked up. @charclone

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Very, very nice.
How much work did you need to do to touch up the images?

Re: 'Traditional' armour, I'm actually leaning towards Lamellar leather armour with metal elements, sort of like a cheap klivanion, rather than 'bodygloves', IIRC, I actually mentioned this in a chapter, when describing armour Tara was wearing. Not a lot of protection on the legs, to avoid restricting movement, just as a fun fact of some worldbuilding, because the canon worldbuilding for them was... all over the place, borrowing from 'native' and 'savage warrior' stereotypes.
Elmer would hunt them all !
He'd have better luck with Bugs. Bugs at least plays 'fair', and does use boobytraps, or counterattacks with weapons, turning the hunter into the hunted.
 
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WyrmofFrost

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Very, very nice.
How much work did you need to do to touch up the images?

Re: 'Traditional' armour, I'm actually leaning towards Lamellar leather armour with metal elements, sort of like a cheap klivanion, rather than 'bodygloves', IIRC, I actually mentioned this in a chapter, when describing armour Tara was wearing. Not a lot of protection on the legs, to avoid restricting movement, just as a fun fact of some worldbuilding, because the canon worldbuilding for them was... all over the place, borrowing from 'native' and 'savage warrior' stereotypes.

He'd have better luck with Bugs. Bugs at least plays 'fair', and does use boobytraps, or counterattacks with weapons, turning the hunter into the hunted.
Honestly most of this stuff was made on first try, once you get a good enough feel for how your specific install works its counterproductive to keep trying to get the perfect image. I have a very specific set of Models (base pic database ie: Anime, Realistic, illustration, painting, etc) and lora (finetuning filter and additional data set) that I keep as a template before messing with the prompt to get what I want. You can see how some of the details are messy even if the overall quality is nice, trying to smooth that out is not a quick or simple process.

Will try to get armor types but thats one of the flaws present right now for AI in general, not very good at getting a specific kind of clothing fashion or type of armor if its not particularly famous. Still I'll see what the next batch gives me.
 
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Bear Ribs

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Yup, if you ask it for leather armor maybe you'll get lamellor, maybe you just get biker leathers that are totally ahistorical. There's little chance that a checkpoint's going to know what klivanion is though.

You can probably fake brigandine easily by asking it for studded leather. The armors an AI will know about are going to be informed by pop culture and DnD characters, not actual historical data.
 

charclone

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Honestly most of this stuff was made on first try, once you get a good enough feel for how your specific install works its counterproductive to keep trying to get the perfect image. I have a very specific set of Models (base pic database ie: Anime, Realistic, illustration, painting, etc) and lora (finetuning filter and additional data set) that I keep as a template before messing with the prompt to get what I want. You can see how some of the details are messy even if the overall quality is nice, trying to smooth that out is not a quick or simple process.

Will try to get armor types but thats one of the flaws present right now for AI in general, not very good at getting a specific kind of clothing fashion or type of armor if its not particularly famous. Still I'll see what the next batch gives me.
Sorry, wasn't trying to ask for you to change anything. Still getting into AI art (and art in general, have some sketching exercises I do), I was just curious as to how you got those images, then went on a tangent about the worldbuilding, because Gate... its worldbuilding is kinda lazy, in a way that gets under my skin.
 

WyrmofFrost

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Sorry, wasn't trying to ask for you to change anything. Still getting into AI art (and art in general, have some sketching exercises I do), I was just curious as to how you got those images, then went on a tangent about the worldbuilding, because Gate... its worldbuilding is kinda lazy, in a way that gets under my skin.

no prob, was just stating my experiences with AI art. Here's what I got, as far as the program is considered I was doing samurai artwork. Twisty wording for the win.

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charclone

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no prob, was just stating my experiences with AI art. Here's what I got, as far as the program is considered I was doing samurai artwork. Twisty wording for the win.

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The folds and ties on the cloth look almost hand done, rather than generated, wow.

It all looks great, nicely done.
 

ATP

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Very, very nice.
How much work did you need to do to touch up the images?

Re: 'Traditional' armour, I'm actually leaning towards Lamellar leather armour with metal elements, sort of like a cheap klivanion, rather than 'bodygloves', IIRC, I actually mentioned this in a chapter, when describing armour Tara was wearing. Not a lot of protection on the legs, to avoid restricting movement, just as a fun fact of some worldbuilding, because the canon worldbuilding for them was... all over the place, borrowing from 'native' and 'savage warrior' stereotypes.

He'd have better luck with Bugs. Bugs at least plays 'fair', and does use boobytraps, or counterattacks with weapons, turning the hunter into the hunted.
I knew ! but,maybe Elmer with magic helmet,spear,and singing "johoho" would have chance ?
 

WyrmofFrost

Wandering Muse Seeker
Gonna put this here, did a revamp of my setup and made these as tests


Made with Meinaunrealv3 model
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ATP

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Gonna put this here, did a revamp of my setup and made these as tests


Made with Meinaunrealv3 model
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Great pictures,but...i belive in Elmer! he would definitly hunt them all ! ;)
 

charclone

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Gonna put this here, did a revamp of my setup and made these as tests


Made with Meinaunrealv3 model
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Holy...! That is really good!

I especially like 5 & 6. This really good!

Thank you!

Edit: Going to try this model. Aside from downloading it and installing it in the models>stable-diffusion folder, is there anything else I would need to keep in mind or do to install it?
 

WyrmofFrost

Wandering Muse Seeker
Holy...! That is really good!

I especially like 5 & 6. This really good!

Thank you!

Edit: Going to try this model. Aside from downloading it and installing it in the models>stable-diffusion folder, is there anything else I would need to keep in mind or do to install it?
if your using automatic111 webui then not on the model itself. I'll just mention my gen parameters so you have a basis to work off of. Resolution can have a drastic change on how a model performs, I personally use 768x576 to get my images. Steps can have an ambigious effect, I prefer the default 20 to start with but that is one that can get tweaked based on personal preference. Samplers also have a varied effect I use DPM2 Karras for meianaunreal but you can try out the others yourself. Finally meianaunreal is meant to be a low word count model, you won't need much of a prompt for it to get results thought it tends to get stuck on a single face (same hair color, expression, etc) so you will need to vary the words once in a while to get it unstuck even with random seeds. Here is mine as a comparison

female soldier wearing military uniform and armor and plate carrier, gun holster, viera from final fantasy, ethnic, d&d, evocative pose, epic fantasy, detailed eyes, sharp features, 1girl, solo
Negative prompt: childlike, nsfw, nude, 3d, lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, artist name
 

charclone

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if your using automatic111 webui then not on the model itself. I'll just mention my gen parameters so you have a basis to work off of. Resolution can have a drastic change on how a model performs, I personally use 768x576 to get my images. Steps can have an ambigious effect, I prefer the default 20 to start with but that is one that can get tweaked based on personal preference. Samplers also have a varied effect I use DPM2 Karras for meianaunreal but you can try out the others yourself. Finally meianaunreal is meant to be a low word count model, you won't need much of a prompt for it to get results thought it tends to get stuck on a single face (same hair color, expression, etc) so you will need to vary the words once in a while to get it unstuck even with random seeds. Here is mine as a comparison

female soldier wearing military uniform and armor and plate carrier, gun holster, viera from final fantasy, ethnic, d&d, evocative pose, epic fantasy, detailed eyes, sharp features, 1girl, solo
Negative prompt: childlike, nsfw, nude, 3d, lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, artist name
So, I've tried it and... man, its really good.

Got a few decent warrior bunny images, but it struggles to get anything close to what Cheshire looks like (Edit: Main issue is her teal streaks in her hair). Not really a surprise, but even what I get looks really good, even if it isn't what I want.
 
Chapter 51

charclone

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Princess Pina Co Lada chewed her lip as she watched a handful of her knights duel. The way the tournament had been set up was a point system, requiring a certain number of victories before moving on to the final elimination brackets.

Despite the presence of any sort of prize, it had been a necessity in the face of the number of contestants that had entered. Many were Warrior Bunnies and NATO soldiers, with a handful of the Long Patrol participating. The Order of the Rose was by far the smallest group, discounting the small number of amateurs that had joined.

Bozes had flown through her matches, starting the day after the final day of the Warrior Bunny festival. She was fighting with a ferocity that was making Pina nervous. Bozes had always been aggressive, but she seemed to be putting her anger into her strikes.

So far, it was working, but she had been against mostly other Rose Knights who were intimidated by her, and youths that had never been trained.

To be fair, Richard seemed to have been fighting others in a similar position, mostly people less experienced than him. But that did little to assuage Pina's fears.

Pina flinched as one of the knights lost their duel, the woman being laid flat on her back by a blow by the training blade. A moment later, her opponent helped her up.

She mentally tallied her knights' points and winced.

So far, it looked like only Bozes would move on to the next round, which was going to be dominated by Warrior Bunnies. Surprising, but Pina wasn't surprised.

They were famed for their skills in warfare.



Hannah's blade was sent into the air, and she stumbled backwards from Richard, raising her hands in surrender.

"Victor: Sir Richard!" The referee, a US Marine announced.

"You alright?" Richard asked as he pulled his helm from his head. "Your movements seemed… off."

"Ah, it's just the armour. Not used to all the weight." Hannah shrugged as she pulled the helmet off. "How do you move with all that?"

"Practice," Richard laughed, leaning his sword on his shoulder. "Lots of practice. Come on, I see Tara waving at us."

Hannah rolled her eyes and followed him.

"She was watching the whole time." Hannah snorted.

"Yeah, but now she wants us to head over. Probably so we aren't delaying the next match." Richard joked as he walked over, pulling his helmet off. He leapt over the fence that lined the border of the arena before being wrapped in a hug.

"My victorious knight." Tara laughed, kissing him on the cheek.

"Hey!" Hannah protested. "What about me?"

"You didn't win." Her friend replied, smirking.

Richard rolled his eyes at the back and forth.

"Right, that was my last match for today. I'm going to go shower and look after my equipment," He glanced at Tara. "You going to come with me, or do you have other things to do?"

Tara's ears wilted.

"Other stuff. I'm trying to talk with other groups, see if they have any ideas for governance but…" She sighed, leaning against Richard's plate-armoured shoulder. "Aside from the… people wanting me as queen, and Radya's cronies, the other groups are… even more fragmented than I thought. A lot of them have even fallen apart because of the festival."

Richard winced.

"Anyway," She said with false cheer before he could say anything. "You need a shower."

"Yes. I do." Richard laughed, rubbing her shoulder. "Hey, Hannah, can you watch the rest of the event, and tell me who the people to move on to the next round are?"

"Sure." Hannah waved. "I need to go return this stuff anyway. But I get to borrow your shower afterwards. It's way nicer than the communal ones."



"Lord Richard?" Richard glanced up at the Long Patrol member. "Radya is here, requesting an audience."

Richard snorted, glancing around at the inside of the smithy he was using. He sighed, before finishing the adjustment to the leather strap of his armour.

"Alright, send her in." He set it to the side as he spoke, leaning back in his chair. "Not exactly a throne room, but I'm no lord."

The soldier ignored his mumbles as he moved to let the Warrior Bunny matriarch in.

"Sir Richard," She greeted.

Richard felt something was off about her tone. He had never spoken directly to her, but there was a slimy quality to it that seemed out of place. A hollow falseness.

"Matriarch Radya," He greeted in reply. "I see you are recovered from the incident."

Richard could have been mistaken, but for a moment, he thought he saw a flicker of fear and anger in her eyes.

"Mostly, yes." Her nostrils flared, and an ear twitched as she looked at Richard. "My compliments on your victory in the early round."

"Thank you. But that isn't the only reason you wanted to speak to me, is it?"

The dark-haired, rabbit-eared woman regarded him carefully.

"There are… many legends of the Gate opening. None of them tell of it staying open so long." She said, breaking away from Richard's hardening gaze. She looked around the forge with false interest. "It is… unprecedented, to my knowledge."

She looked back at Richard, smiling and shrugging.

"Ah, of course, I am no scholar. Perhaps the scholar-mages of Rondel know of times when it stayed open. There are certainly many kinds of humans and elves, so perhaps it has happened before." She said.

Richard bit back a snort. Compared to Pina's mask, Radya's was practically transparent. Though Richard didn't know why Pina disliked him, he was starting to become aware of it, from the way she had frowned whenever he noticed her looking at him.

"What are you getting at?" Richard dropped his feigned politeness. UnCanadian of him perhaps, but he wasn't being rude about it.

"I am curious, as to whether you would choose to stay, or leave if the Gate were to close." If Radya was insulted by his blunt question, she wasn't showing it. "I understand you and Tara are… close?"

Richard bit back his initial confirmation of their relationship, considering the woman in front of him.

"And… why does that matter to you?"

"Well…" Radya hesitated. "If Tara were to become our queen, you can't blame me for being concerned about where her feelings lie, can you?"

Richard bit back a snort.

Throughout human history, there had been countless would-be kings and queens. Petty tyrants and revered conquerors. Richard was a student of history. He knew, that for all the dramatization of history, the media did, the path to power that those who had succeeded in their ambitions walked was not nearly as dramatic or eye-catching. Often, it was quiet, until it was too late or too costly to stop.

To Richard, Radya was quite blatant in her ambitions, with the tone of voice she tried, and failed, to hide when she mentioned Tara being queen.

"If?" Richard asked. "Who else would be… acceptable? Not to be accusatory, of course, just… well. I'm sure you've heard Tara's reasons for being hesitant."

His heart thundered in his ears as he spoke.

Radya smiled, this one almost predatory.

"Oh, I could hardly blame her. It was… not as an easy position, leading our people." She shrugged. "But, of course, that doesn't answer your question."

She paused.

"Well, it hardly matters, as long as they do the job properly." She said after a moment. "Now, I had best be off. By your leave, Sir Richard."

She bowed, and spun around, leaving in a flash.

Richard remained seated, deep in thought.

Nearly half an hour later, Tara walked in, pouting.

"Tara," Richard's eyes flicked up at her. "I thought you would be busy still?"

"Most of the groups cancelled their meetings with me or accused me of deliberately splintering their groups." She groaned, striding over to sit on his lap. "So, what happened to make you put on that frowning face?"

"Radya swung by earlier. She tried to get under my skin for some reason…" Richard paused. "How many groups splintered?"

"Uh… most of them, I think?" Tara yelped when Richard suddenly stood up, throwing her from his lap in the process. "What's wrong?"

Tara blinked as Richard began to pace.

"Small things about her that were off… and would it be correct that the only two groups to really retain any sort of power are the… Royalists, backing you, and Radya's faction?" Richard asked, stopping next to the table where his word lay.

"I think she lost some followers, and some groups are still around, though much smaller. Some new ones formed too… but I suppose they are the largest two." Tara answered, frowning. "Richard, what's wrong?"

"Radya is rather manipulative. Ham-fisted about it, but manipulative." Richard replied, drawing his sword. "And I think she has ambitions. She… deliberately avoided saying she would be a candidate for rulership, despite my own implications of that being the case. I might be jumping at straws, but…"

Tara winced.

"She's… yeah. She's manipulative." She admitted. "I don't know if she is trying to be queen but… I think she has been pressing in that direction in some of the meetings. But… why should we care? If she is queen, I won't have to be."

Richard inspected his blade, then slumped and sheathed it.

"First, do you really trust her with that power? Second… it would divide your people further." Richard said. "How many of your people would choose to follow her? And how many would… resist it. Aggressively?"

Tara blinked. She crossed her arms.

"Please tell me you aren't suggesting I make myself queen to keep her from doing the same?"

Richard didn't respond, instead electing to put the sword back on the table and lean against it.

"Richard. I don't want to rule. I'd be terrible at it!" She shouted.

"Not wanting the power, actually makes you more qualified to handle it," Richard said. "In addition, there have been many poor rulers that did not ruin their nations. They made sure they had advisors, lieutenants, or even just cronies, who could do the job the monarch could not. It's partially how the British ended up with the Prime Minister being head of Government."

The pair stood in silence, tension in the air between them.

It was broken a moment later by Hannah knocking on the door.

"Hey, Richard, I'm off to steal your shower." She said, the tension unrecognised. "But your first match is going to be against one of the Roses. The yellow-haired one?"

"Thank you, Hannah." He said. "Enjoy your shower."

He glanced at Tara, who had her head hung low and her arms crossed.

"Well, I'd best get my gear ready for that match tomorrow." Richard picked up his armour. "Tara, I… I'll see you tonight?"

"…Yeah." Tara sighed. "Tonight. I'm… I'm going to go… talk to some more people."



Bozes Co Palesti tested the training blade in her hands. Feeling its weight as she prepared herself for the duel.

Across the field, Richard stretched in his black armour.

'My princess and friend was insulted. I cannot let that stand.' She thought, glaring at the black-clad knight. 'But Pina is right. To tarnish my honour in the process, and jeopardise the peace my liege was working towards, would be… an unacceptable situation. So, here, on this field of honour, I will defeat you!'

Richard, of course, could not hear her thoughts.

As the referee, a soldier from someplace Bozes had heard called 'France', called them both to the centre of the field, a third pair of eyes watched, greatly interested in seeing the defeat of Richard.

Radya, sitting in the private stand set aside for notables, watched gleefully. Confident that her words the day before had had the chance to worm their way into Richard's mind. His defeat would be a minor note, but if he was seen as weaker than the Empire, then it would plant doubt in the minds of some of the other Warrior Bunnies who were still on the fence.

Part of her was glad that her subordinates had at least been able to carry out her plan, even in her absence. A whisper here, a rumour there, coupled with the fact that it was only Radya and Tara that seemed to have any sort of working plan, and the other factions splintered and collapsed. Not completely, but it became much easier to win them over if they were lacking in the political influence that supporters gave them.

The only flies in the ointment were Richard's popularity, his closeness to Tara, and her being related by blood to the Royal line. It was netting them a solid power base.

She had been tempted to try and spread rumours that Richard's efforts to secure food were going mostly to NATO, but the amount of food NATO was still handing out would keep those from being effective.

Hence, the duel.

She had also been tempted to try and sabotage Richard's armour, but he maintained his armour, so that idea was nixed.

In the end, her tongue was her weapon of circumstance.

With them reduced in stature, she could consolidate her power. Perhaps even be queen before the end of the year.

She grinned wickedly as the duel was signalled to begin.

Richard quickly was put on the back foot as Bozes leapt forwards, her gilded armour flashing in the sun, her blade stabbing at his chest, to be batted to the side as Richard backpedalled.

Bozes swung again, and again. Richard kept himself steady, taking a hit when he could not parry. Steel clanging and ringing as they collided.

"Just take him down already." Radya hissed quietly, attentive to the presence of one of the NATO officers in the stand.

It was just a brief moment that Richard needed.

As he parried one of her blows, he called out.

"Come one!" Laughing in the process.

Bozes grit her teeth and lunged again. This time, Richard stepped to the side, gripping the blade of his sword in one hand, to block her redirected strike mean to keep him from getting around.

Driving her blade back, he lashed out with his sword, striking her helmet. She stumbled backwards in shock, teetering.

Under the rules of the tournament, one's foe needed to be knocked down, or yield. Drawing blood was possible grounds for disqualification.

Pina, in another stand, covered her face as Bozes steadied herself, letting out a scream of rage.

"She's lost it." The Saderan princess muttered. "I shouldn't have let her participate. I knew she got angry easily in duels, it's how Gray kept beating her whenever she felt humiliated by the training enough to challenge one of the instructors."

Bozes lunged, her strikes less coordinated, but with much more power behind them.

For a brief heartbeat, Radya grinned, sensing Richard's surprise. Then the grin vanished.

Richard parried her blows, and despite his speed slowing, his steps became more confident.

Bozes lunged one final time, intending to strike at Richard's arm. She had not lost her senses with her temper. She knew she couldn't harm Richard, but she fully intended to win.

Richard's sword came at an angle, catching her sword and pointing it skywards. His offhand lashed out, catching her wrist as he stepped parallel to her blade. In a battle, it would be a move that left him vulnerable. But in a duel…

His sword's tip was caught by his plated foot, and they both struck the back of Bozes' outstretched leg.

She let out a gasp as she hit the ground.

"Victory: Richard."

Radya stood and walked out, not caring that, as Bozes stood, Richard seemed to be the one in worse shape, tearing his helmet off and panting.



"My compliments on your victory," Pina said, later that day.

Richard, an icepack over one eye, looked at her.

"I'm not sure what you mean, your highness? I lost the tournament." He said, winding as he aggravated his bruised hand.

"You defeated one of my knights," Pina kept her voice even. "She is… rather distraught about that fact. Nevertheless, it was fair, and it underlined her weakness. How, if I may be so bold as to ask, did you know she was easy to anger?"

"I didn't." Richard laughed. Pina frowned in disbelief. "No, really, I didn't. I laughed because I was having fun."

"I… I suppose I can understand the sentiment." Pina replied. "Still, there was another matter. I am returning to Saderan in two days, but I received an invitation for you, from a Count Arruns. I believe he was part of the invasion force, the one that initially captured you. He… sent a guarantee that you would not be harmed, and could bring as many guards as you wished."

Pina motioned for Hamilton to hand over the letter in question. Richard took it, curiously.

"My apologies if I am missing something, but… why are you delivering it? It seems rather… below a princess." Richard asked, adjusting the ice pack.

Pina's face twisted in confusion.

"It would hardly do to insult you, considering your connections to your own monarch."

Then, it was Richard's turn to be confused.

"I… have no connections, blood or political, to His Majesty the King, aside from earning the medal he awarded."

Pina blinked.

"I… see. My apologies, I assumed." She said. "The medal, it's awarded only by the monarch, then?"

"Yes, the Order of the British Empire is awarded only by His Majesty," Richard replied. "It is… awarded based on merit, rather than political connections or feudal reward. Now… I hope you don't mind if I ask, but, would it be correct to assume that you have also been invited to this… what is the event?"

"A feast and party, I believe, and yes, the Imperial family was invited. As a matter of course. I doubt any of us will attend." Pina paused. "Why?"

"Because, it might get turned into a diplomatic thing by the politicians, a way of showing we are moving towards peace. When is it scheduled?" Richard put down the icepack to unfold the letter. "Er… not familiar with the dating system used…"

"In three months," Hamilton supplied. "A little short notice for a diplomatic event, but I suppose it was not planned to be such."

"Well, I… am not sure I'd be there, what with training the Long Patrol," Richard said, yawning and placing the icepack back over his bruised eye. "I suppose I'd best discuss this with the General, and then get to preparing a response. With your leave, your Highness?"

A.N. So, uh... been 19 days since the last chapter. Its not dead, I'd say if it was, but life gets in the way. Have a backlog, and this was written back in 29/04/2023, but I wanted to keep the backlog three chapters long. Didn't expect it to take this long though.

Good news, I've nearly written what I expect to be the halfway point. So, yeah. Enjoy. Next chapter shouldn't take as long.
 

ATP

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Great chapter,as always,and it would be funny if Tara decide to be Queen only to stop Radya.
Now,when i read about french soldier calling Bozes,i could not resist this:



It would be funny,if some french really did it to her !
Or even better,Zorzal.
 
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Chapter 52

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"You are going to that party," General Jameson stated bluntly the next day. "Between getting to show off the Long Patrol, making connections with the Imperials, strengthening the peace, and presenting ourselves as peers, it is an opportunity to do a great deal of diplomatic good. Besides, we will be having a celebration of some sort to commemorate the peace deal around that time anyway, which you will need to attend as well, so this lets us plan ahead a bit more, and show off."

Richard nodded, sitting in the chair across the desk from the General.

"I understand, it's just…" He chewed his tongue for a moment. "I killed his son when he captured me. So… I feel uneasy about it."

"You'll have a protective detail, more than just a handful of the Long Patrol. Veteran soldiers, who have done this sort of thing before," The American general explained, in an attempt to reassure the younger Canadian. "Besides, I doubt it's ambush, the Count is inviting too many different people, including the Saderan Imperial family."

"I know, I know…" Richard sighed, shaking his head. "Probably just my nervousness over the upcoming training."

Samuel snorted in amusement.

"You'll be fine," He laughed. "Major Johnston has faith in you, and I trust his judgement. Hell, the man's gut could probably pick out one of those… what were they called? The shapeshifters?"

"Dar," Richard replied, letting himself relax.

"Right, well, speaking of them…" The phone began to ring. "Hang on, one moment."

Richard leaned back in his seat, letting his eyes wander around the general's office. He noted with some amusement, that a trio of battle standards, all Saderan, had been set up in his office to one side in a rack. Pictures of other people in uniform dominated the walls, with only a single display case showing the general's awards and campaign ribbons being the only statement of ego he spotted. The NATO flag hung next to a bookshelf, on which Richard recognised many of the books on medieval and Roman society, culture, politics and warfare.

"General Jameson," The officer said into the phone. "Jeff, good to hear from you, but… no, I understand… I…"

Richard gestured to the door, in a silent question to the General. Samuel shook his head, mouthing 'stay'.

"I'm glad to hear your daughter is doing better. But no, I can't authorise that… damn it, Jeff, you can't ask for those sorts of favours. We just don't know enough about… Okay, look, first, I understand, but you shouldn't be being given that information. Second, you have not been invited, and the list will be up to other people to decide, probably a committee. Third, the main invitee is here in my office, and you have interrupted a meeting. If something gets cleared, and they are looking for volunteers, and I can legally inform you, then I will, but please, for both our sakes, don't do anything stupid… yes, thank you. You too, goodbye."

Jameson placed the phone on the receiver with a sigh, hanging his head.

"Friend of mine, politician. Daughter got hit by a car a couple of years ago, and he is desperately hoping there is something here on Falmart that can heal her injury," He took a deep breath. "Someone told him about the invitation. Modern communication, and the fibre-optic cable, are sometimes a pain. He offered to participate in the delegation and back me however I needed, in exchange for getting healing for his daughter."

Richard winced.

"Corruption, but the kind that is hard to condemn," He sighed. "So, I assume based on your comment that a committee is going to determine a list of Earth politicians to attend?"

"Probably. I only just sent the report in myself," Jameson shrugged. "Anyway, where were we? Oh, right, the Dar."

The American general pulled a file from his desk.

"Here, give it a read. The guy that was captured back at Italica has been gone over by the spooks, and now he wants to 'defect'," He said, handing the folder to Richard. "More like he wants a steady paycheck, with a boss that isn't going to treat him as disposable. I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but the choice is yours since he is hardly the first former foe added to the Long Patrol. Intel added a bunch of comments. Take a few days to read through it, then decide."

General Jameson leaned back into his seat, rubbing his jaw.

"One last thing. Got an odd request from Rory," A dark look flickered over the general's face as he gained a distant look as he mentioned the demigod. It vanished a moment later. "She, along with an odd fellow from Italica have requested your assistance and backing for an… expedition to some old ruins. She insisted it be you, rather than some archaeologists."

"Me? Why?" Richard's face twisted in bafflement. "Why would she want me? I avoid her."

"So do I. Her and the marines are a… potent combination," Samuel shuddered in memory. "All I know is that she cited her god as part of the reason and that the journey would help relations. She said there were a couple of bandit groups that were hiding near the route they would take, that we could wipe out. I'm willing to believe her that far since she is at least honest with us, and she offered to assist our people by being given copies of some records of the Gate from Rondel, a mage-city-state to the north."

"Any idea what they are looking for?"

"No. And that worries me," The American sighed. "Magic, gods, dragons, things from fairy tales and fiction. Too many unknowns with them being real. If she's headed to seal some ancient evil before it awakens, then I would want it done yesterday. If it's for something else…"

The general threw up his hands.

"So…" Richard asked. "You suggesting I go?"

"Honestly, I don't know. I'm willing to send some soldiers in that direction, and what she is offering is worth it, but…" General Jameson shook his head. "Some days, I wonder if this is all a bad dream. Anyway, you have just over a week free before the training would start, so there is time. This, I am also delegating to you. I'll give you the name of the fellow with Rory, and let you talk to him and decide. If there is nothing else on your end?"

"Actually," Richard handed a form over. "The bill for the uniform. Need your permission to ship them over."

"Oh, right," Samuel laughed. "So, what did you agree on with your sister?"

"Boots and dress coats," The Canadian replied. "Another company is going to do the uniforms and the helmets. Dress headwear is being done by a third company. Ended up going with, at Hannah and Tara's insistence partly to draw from history and snub the Saderans; dress uniforms inspired by the British Army of the 1860s."

The American general laughed.



"So, a week away from Alnus? Sign me up!" Tara laughed next to Richard.

He had sent word to the individual, a priest of Palapon the god of vengeance apparently, named Dimmu, requesting to meet him.

Tara, exhausted from the verbal fighting that had broken out in the wake of the festival, had elected to join him. They had chosen a new restaurant, this one located in the newest section of the rapidly expanding Alnus town, as the location for the meeting, partly out of curiosity.

So far, Richard had not been impressed. Cheap tables, rickety chairs, and based on the wait times, a too-small and understaffed kitchen.

"We still haven't decided if we are going to follow up on it," Richard pointed out. "Besides, you'll be away as part of the officer training. Oh, I think that is him now."

A cloaked figure walked through the entrance, hunched over, using a staff for stability. The cloak was old and well-worn but looked as if it had been recently cleaned. Slowly, the figure made their way to Richard and Tara's table.

"Sir Richard, Lady Tara? I am Dimmu. Thank you for agreeing to consider my request," The malformed shape beneath the cloak said as he sat at the table, in lightly accented Saderan. "My apologies if it is rude not to remove my cloak, but I suffer from sensitivity to the light."

"So, why is it you requested my assistance in this matter?" Richard asked.

Dimmu paused, considering his response.

"Ultimately, while there are several reasons, my primary reason is that Her Holiness, Lady Rory, recommended you," He explained. "My research… ties into my faith. I am a priest of the god of Revenge, and the tale I am investigating… pre-dates him. A tale of revenge, which is of interest to him. In exchange, my revenge will be seen too. So it is not purely a matter of the pursuit of knowledge or wealth."

Richard knew that there would be cultural differences. Even on Earth, there were still cultures that treated revenge as a virtue. Or at least acceptable. Nevertheless, the concept of revenge, here, made him uneasy.

"'An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.' As the saying goes," He said. The idea of assisting an act of revenge made him uneasy. Left a bitter taste in his mouth at the thought. "I fail to see why I should assist you."

"Well, that is an… interesting way to look at it. But is not justice another form of revenge?" Dimmu asked, peering out from under his hood. Richard and Tara caught a glimpse of a malformed face, with twisted bone beneath fur and twisted and knotted skin. "A thief who has stolen from a merchant has taken goods that might have been sold to a family to eat, after all. And is it not a judge chooses who lives and dies, who faces punishment, and what 'just' punishments are?"

"Justice is based on a set of standards, applied to all, evenly and without bias. On paper, if applied correctly," Richard countered bluntly. "Punishment is done and determined by society, not an individual. It is not about punishment itself, but rather adding incentive to avoid the crime being done in the first place, and having a standard that had been agreed to beforehand on how to handle those that did break the law. Revenge is based on emotion, rather than any sort of rational agreement or process. But we are getting off-topic. Why should I go with you on this expedition to ancient ruins?"

Richard felt Tara lay a hand over his.

"Well, it would seem your people and mine have… different definitions and values of justice," The priest snarled. He took a breath before continuing. "The ruins in question are an old Warrior Bunny city, from well before the Saderan Empire was founded. Perhaps before humans ever came to Falmart. The elven city-states, primarily the one that once existed where Italica now is, waged a war in response to heavy raiding. It lasted for several years, until the Warriors Bunnies on this side of the Dumas Mountains. I am tracing the path of two warriors, a demigod and her lover, who participated in the war. From what I have gathered, the demigod was the servant of the Warrior Bunnies goddess, an old god that no longer worshipped, and yet she fought alongside the elves. Her lover was a powerful mage, credited with the destruction of entire armies. They split, after one battle, and I believe they reconnected in this city. But this is the strange part: That city was never attacked, never mentioned afterwards. Both peoples seem to have… abandoned the city and avoided it like it was cursed. My god is certain that their tale of revenge against the goddess culminated there, and my own research supports it. All I ask is for the story. The riches and whatever artefacts discovered would be yours. I can also offer my services, and the services of my god, to assist your mission, and to determine if any of those items are cursed."



"Presenting! Praetor Peregrinus Porphyrogenita Pina Co Lada!" The sound of the wind and the roar of the 'helicopter's' 'engines' nearly drowned out Hamilton's announcement as Pina's delegation – the elements of the Order of Roses that were not staying at Alnus – disembarked from the NATO flying machines.

Pina kept her face calm, and her feet steady, as she led them towards a formation of the Imperial Guard. Smiling, she evenly greeted the officer in charge as he saluted her.

"Praefectus Praetorio Spurius Commidus. A pleasure to see you again," She acknowledged her father's commander of the Imperial Guard. "I am honoured my father has seen fit to send you personally to escort me back to Sadera."

"It is my honour and pleasure, your highness," The officer smiled back and bowed. "I must apologise however, for not giving you the proper time to recover from your journey, especially given the… strange mode of transportation the otherworlders provided, but your father has requested your presence. He wishes to speak with you, as soon as possible. He also hopes the newest recruit to the veterans assisting your knights arrived safely."

The Praefectus Preatorio, titled from an ancient office, glanced nervously as he spoke at the large helicopter behind her. Pina didn't blame him, it was a strange way to move, but it was swifter than any flying mount she had heard of, and offered a smoother ride.

"He did, yes. I look forwards to what he can offer my knights," She replied. "Now, if the Emperor asks of it, we should not keep him waiting. Please, lead me to my father."



"Thank you, Valerian. You may leave,"

The officer saluted his emperor, before departing, leaving Pina alone with her father in his study. On the desk lay her letters to him, reports on Earth, NATO, and related political concerns. In his hands was the second to last letter. The latest was apparently still on route, and Pina had overtaken it.

"The senate is greatly concerned over some of your reports," He began, not looking up from the letter. "They, quietly, accuse you of xenophilia and defeatism. I know you better than that, however. And I am not a blind fool. This NATO crushed many of our legions. We would be left with half-trained recruits, dregs, and rebellions across the empire if we launched another attack. So, we cannot defeat them militarily?"

"No," Pina answered her father, taking the offered seat. She relaxed into the cushion, thankful for its presence as it absorbed any discomfort from setting in her armour. "They have… extremely well-developed supply lines and doctrines. They have been able to stockpile supplies for weeks, and we have no reliable method for defeating their cavalry equivalents. Not to mention their soldiers are trained to an equal standard as our own, with superior weapons."

"Could we not steal, purchase, or replicate their magic?" Molt Sol Augustus asked. He knew the answer already of course, Pina had laid it out quite thoroughly, along with a basic explanation of how the weapons worked. He had sent out a few agents to acquire alchemists to see if there were methods available, and he knew for certain that Bouro had as well. But he wanted to know if Pina had learned anything else, or if she had information she did not want to risk in a letter.

"It isn't magic," Pina sighed. "We can replicate it, but only in a very primitive form, until we can create better tools and metals. Unfortunately, it would be too unreliable to use on the battlefield and would be extremely expensive. If we can maintain relations with NATO long enough, and at high enough levels, we would likely be able to purchase tools and weapons."

Molt raised his eyebrows.

"Indeed? What would be the main difficulties?"

"Slavery, and the peace treaty. There is also the matter of the land they are occupying, and the vassals," Pina replied. "King Duran seems close to Sir Richard, the knight that took Alnus, and there has been talk of treaties with the other vassals in the region."

Molt nodded. He had heard similar rumours, and the letters between him and Duran, well; they were far from friends. Duran had always resented the Empire's control over his country and the oppressive taxes levied.

"What do you think they will demand for the treaty?"

"That…" Pina faltered. "Aside from monetary or material demands as compensation for the invasion, I'm not sure. They may want trade concessions or force us to move away from using slavery, as they are strongly opposed to it. One member of NATO had a civil war over the issue, and another dedicated its navy to the extermination of the slave trade for several decades."

Emperor Molt hummed in contemplation, leaning back in his chair. He didn't blame Pina for not knowing what they would want for peace, and what she did not say they wanted was rather strange. It was a fact of diplomacy that one needed blood relations between nobles, to strengthen any peace, otherwise, it was merely one man's word against another.

If they were not demanding any form of connection, then what else would they want instead to avoid a new war? Pina's letters had outlined quite clearly how handily they could break the Empire. That they did showed a weakness for the plight of the commoners, if what Pina had been told was true regarding them fearing the collapse of the Empire.

Molt paused and searched for a letter, one that detailed the political systems of the other side of the Gate.

"They're all like republics," He muttered. "That would make dynastic alliances difficult."

Pina seemed confused as her father smiled.

"As long as the financial burden is not too severe, a monetary repayment would be acceptable," He said. "They intend to do us the honour of hosting the peace talks, yes?"

"Yes. I offered them the use of the Jade Palace if that would be acceptable to you," Pina replied.

"Good, that will do fine. Isolated that they cannot accuse us of spying on them, but not so far that they could be attacked without the Imperial Guard being able to respond," He nodded. "Yes, that will do. Now, there is another matter. The Senate. They are not going to be happy about the treaty. Less conquest, and fewer slaves, will hurt them. The Imperial family will survive, and I recommend you quietly get rid of your slaves. Sell them, gift them to this Richard to free them and gain some influence with him, whatever you feel appropriate. Daughter, you received my letter?"

"I did, yes," Pina confirmed, slightly confused. "But I'm not sure what you meant by it. How can I become more involved than I already am? What of the Order of Roses?"

Molt sighed at his daughter.

"You brothers both scheme for the throne. Members of the Senate look to use them, and you, to achieve their own ends," He explained. "Zorzal thinks me blind to his true intellect, though he overestimates himself in the process, and Diabo makes far too many risky deals. Neither of them I would trust. Yet, I cannot simply appoint you to the throne, not without Zorzal doing something to earn condemnation from the Senate. There is also the matter, daughter, of you. Why do you think so many nobles, most of them Equestria Familia, agreed to join or were sent to join your order of knights? Surely you recognised not all of them hold to the same sorts of stories and codes you do?"

Pina's mouth went dry. Suddenly, her armour felt heavier.

"Father, what do you mean? I am aware that some are looking to curry favour, but we are devoted to the Empire never-the-less."

"Indeed," Molt, who had earned the throne through political alliances and the previous emperor being dethroned by a too-powerful senate, one he had curbed to end a brewing civil war, nodded leaning over his desk. "But daughter, who would be Emperor when I am gone? Who would rule the Empire?"
 

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