Logical goblin slayer

[Carrot of Truth]

I have actually read all the translated light novels for this series. As for the goblins they are regularly left unchecked because the world is constantly under seige from far worse things like demons liches hordes of undead dragons ect. Not really a good reason but the one presented regularly. As for the nonsensical amounts of glass and modern designs of structures I chalk that up to being easier to draw and the DnD inspired setting. As for the adventures guild the Japanese have an obsession with everything needing to be organized and official in their fiction.

 

[Jouaint]

Humans don't go extinct because Illusion creates new humans and drops them fully-formed into the world to keep up their numbers.

This is also why there's such a gender imbalance among adventurers, Illusion prefers to create young girls so she tends to make parties that are either all female like the party that gets TPR'd in chapter 4 or three girls to one guy like the newbie party in the first episode. It's not actually surprising Goblin Slayer has half a dozen girls thirsting at him when you realize there's actually several girls per guy in that universe. It's more surprising every guy doesn't have a harem given that would appear to be the only option for most women, but Goblin Slayer has the typical Japanese Protagonist inability to recognize how every single girl is trying to get in his pants.

To be fair Goblin Slayer has the excuse of being a genuinely traumatized wreck of a person held together almost entirely by his vengeance quest against goblins. Remember he watched his sister get raped to death while he was still like 10, all the while having to keep quiet so that he didn't get murdered and eaten.

 

[ATP]

I have actually read all the translated light novels for this series. As for the goblins they are regularly left unchecked because the world is constantly under seige from far worse things like demons liches hordes of undead dragons ect. Not really a good reason but the one presented regularly. As for the nonsensical amounts of glass and modern designs of structures I chalk that up to being easier to draw and the DnD inspired setting. As for the adventures guild the Japanese have an obsession with everything needing to be organized and official in their fiction.

Well,then world should cease to exist long agoanyway.After goblins take all womans and died in next generation.
And,what is stopping villagers from living in fortified huts with crossbows made by local blacksmith? it would not cost much,and they still would not be danger to King.
Sadly,creators of this are simply lazy.Or,try to made GS look better.

 

[Typhonis]

The thing is all of the peasants pay taxes. Why? Because of a promise that the local nobility made. Pay me taxes and I will protect you. That is how it is supposed to work. Here? If the goblins are wiping villages out if they are destroying farms and people. Well, that hits the king's bottom line quite hard. Dead people pay no taxes. Thus the money the king needs will start to dry up and I doubt that there are any big banks in GS. So out of his own sense of self-interest, the King needs to deal with the goblins. Or else no tax money and more importantly no food. I think the ratio was 70% of the people were engaged in growing and processing food for the kingdom. Farmers, millers, and such. So if the Goblins are hitting farms and villages...there goes the food supply. Another reason for the king to get involved unless he wanted a peasant rebellion on his hands.

 

[Bear Ribs]

The thing is all of the peasants pay taxes. Why? Because of a promise that the local nobility made. Pay me taxes and I will protect you. That is how it is supposed to work. Here? If the goblins are wiping villages out if they are destroying farms and people. Well, that hits the king's bottom line quite hard. Dead people pay no taxes. Thus the money the king needs will start to dry up and I doubt that there are any big banks in GS. So out of his own sense of self-interest, the King needs to deal with the goblins. Or else no tax money and more importantly no food. I think the ratio was 70% of the people were engaged in growing and processing food for the kingdom. Farmers, millers, and such. So if the Goblins are hitting farms and villages...there goes the food supply. Another reason for the king to get involved unless he wanted a peasant rebellion on his hands.

I'm not actually 100% peasants in Goblin Slayer pay any taxes to the King, I can't recall seeing that ever happen. They pay the Guild but not any rulers.

In general, it seems to me that Goblin Slayer has essentially transplanted modern Japanese society into the setting. Everything important is taken care of by their overarching massive bureaucracy (the Guild) while the Emperor King is a largely ceremonial (religious?) figurehead who doesn't actually perform any duties, collect any taxes, or basically act Kingly in any way. The King has no nobles because the Japanese Emperor doesn't have them in the modern day, that task being taken over by the bureaucracy itself.

At least they didn't quite go so far as some settings that make Adventuring into a boring sarariman job where people just grind the same minor tasks over and over again...

 

[Carrot of Truth]

The thing is all of the peasants pay taxes. Why? Because of a promise that the local nobility made. Pay me taxes and I will protect you. That is how it is supposed to work. Here? If the goblins are wiping villages out if they are destroying farms and people. Well, that hits the king's bottom line quite hard. Dead people pay no taxes. Thus the money the king needs will start to dry up and I doubt that there are any big banks in GS. So out of his own sense of self-interest, the King needs to deal with the goblins. Or else no tax money and more importantly no food. I think the ratio was 70% of the people were engaged in growing and processing food for the kingdom. Farmers, millers, and such. So if the Goblins are hitting farms and villages...there goes the food supply. Another reason for the king to get involved unless he wanted a peasant rebellion on his hands.

The goblin attacks that wipe out villages are generally restricted to the frontier which as the name implies is a frontier. Also the vast majority of Goblin attacks don't ever get to that scale. Also the king does actually do stuff like slay dragons and lead armies into battle against demons and such. He also has a totally not batman alter ego who fights the "evil sect" incognito, Adventurers deal with the stuff the regular armies can't and there are also a lot of nobles.

 

[ATP]

The goblin attacks that wipe out villages are generally restricted to the frontier which as the name implies is a frontier. Also the vast majority of Goblin attacks don't ever get to that scale. Also the king does actually do stuff like slay dragons and lead armies into battle against demons and such. He also has a totally not batman alter ego who fights the "evil sect" incognito, Adventurers deal with the stuff the regular armies can't and there are also a lot of nobles.

All true - but with human villages poorly defended,and goblins relatively strong compared to them or elves,humanity still should vanish long enough.

To made it possible,we need:
1.Some working feudal system for humans
2.Villages better defended
3.Stronger Elves and Adventurers
4.Goblins taking relatively few womans to breed them for years,not kill after gangrape or delivering few goblins.

 

[ParadiseLost]

I mean, of course the setting doesn't make sense? Its not supposed to.

I don't get the people criticizing it or trying to justify it.

Its explicitly a setting controlled entirely by gods that act as DMs. They are pretty much reality warpers who created a death world, but it doesn't look like a death world at first glance because they are ensuring that the setting stays stable so they keep being entertained when people succeed/suffer/die/whatever.

Logistics and appearance don't have to make sense because the buildings weren't design by architects or people who had practical reasons, a god made them yesterday (along with the entire population of the village) because they thought it looked cool and wanted a village to throw a few monsters at.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

All true - but with human villages poorly defended,and goblins relatively strong compared to them or elves,humanity still should vanish long enough.

To made it possible,we need:
1.Some working feudal system for humans
2.Villages better defended
3.Stronger Elves and Adventurers
4.Goblins taking relatively few womans to breed them for years,not kill after gangrape or delivering few goblins.

There is a working feudal system in the setting, Goblin attacks are not common outside of the frontier barring a few exceptions involving corrupt nobles using them as bioweapons. And last but jot least it's a DnD world where the gods (players) spawn new people villages ect when they want to start a new campaign. Also the elves are basically super powered. One of the few instances of one getting captured was because an ogre defeated her and handed her off to the goblins.

 

[ATP]

There is a working feudal system in the setting, Goblin attacks are not common outside of the frontier barring a few exceptions involving corrupt nobles using them as bioweapons. And last but jot least it's a DnD world where the gods (players) spawn new people villages ect when they want to start a new campaign. Also the elves are basically super powered. One of the few instances of one getting captured was because an ogre defeated her and handed her off to the goblins.

Then why HEA attacked by about 10 goblins in close distance killed only one with dagger,and almost get gangraped?
She should kill all of them in minute with her magic sword.
And,goblin Lord among captured females had at least one.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Then why HEA attacked by about 10 goblins in close distance killed only one with dagger,and almost get gangraped?
She should kill all of them in minute with her magic sword.
And,goblin Lord among captured females had at least one.

It's still a DnD setting and bad luck aka a bad dice toss is a thing that happens from time to time.

 

[Typhonis]

Are we sure Goblin Slayer is in a world like D+D and not say a world styled after Warhammer Old World? The pre Age of Sigmar stuff.

 

[Bear Ribs]

It seems to be generally DnD like. Magic, f'rex, is generally Vancian with casters having a specific number of spell slots per day. The first party was made up of a sorcerer (who was called Wizard), cleric, fighter, and monk (who was called Fighter), a very basic and semi-typical DnD party (they might have fared better if they had a rogue).

Warhammer old world has quite a few elements missing from Goblin Slayer, like it's cannons and the heavy emphasis on mounts and beasts where everybody in Goblin Slayer walks and even the carts are often pulled by people instead of draft animals.

Actually, Goblin Slayer looks a lot like a homebrew setting where the DM took all the magic items out and didn't think to reduce the threat levels to accommodate how much weaker than makes the PCs compared to the monsters.

 

[Typhonis]

What I mean is Goblin Slayer a low magic setting? Hero's are squishy and monsters can kill them. Maic items are rare and not that powerful with a king only having 3 magical items at best. Plus magic is dangerous to use and will backfire on the caster.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Hmm, kinda, but magic itself isn't rare, just magic items. Even a complete newbie porcelain party usually has a caster or two who can throw down a few lightning bo, light spells, or minor heals.

You do have a point about how squishy the heroes are though, assuming the ten levels of Goblin Slayer map to the 20 levels of DnD it's unbelievable that 10 goblins could be a threat to High Elf Archer who'd be in the mid-teen levels.

Perhaps it's DnD E6, where heroes are always squishy because you top out at 6HD and only get feats for levels after that, becoming more tactically flexible but never getting tougher. A DnD party that knows how the tactical system works and takes advantage of the rules (F'rex having a mastery of attacks of opportunity and knowing the complex grappling system) is absurdly more capable than a group with players who really just wing it.

 

[Typhonis]

Might be worse. Max hp at level 1 then you get Con Bonus to hp every level afterwards.

 

[ATP]

It's still a DnD setting and bad luck aka a bad dice toss is a thing that happens from time to time.

And i try to made it at least slighty logical.Becouse DnD world when entire villages appear only to be eaten and raped is stupid.
And work of very bad writer.
I simply try to made this DnD piece of shit better.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Are we sure Goblin Slayer is in a world like D+D and not say a world styled after Warhammer Old World? The pre Age of Sigmar stuff.

It's definitely a dnd world one of the light novels has the players talking about starting a new campaign.

 

[ATP]

It's definitely a dnd world one of the light novels has the players talking about starting a new campaign.

They still should have stronger elves and humans,fortified villages,and goblins taking few womans and keeping them alive for years,not raping 10 and killing most before they could bring even one goblin.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Heroes should also be wearing helmets. This one's really weird, actually. I mean, it's standard for characters not to do this, both in film because the studio's pay octillions of pennies for the actors and thus want their faces on screen, and in manga because hairstyle is one of the few cues to telling characters apart and it becomes a mess if the readers can't immediately tell who's who.

However Goblin Slayer also explicitly has things like an entire party wiped out by a headshot from a slingstone, followed by the same sling bouncing a stone off Goblin Slayer's helmet. The author's clearly aware and made a point of it. You can't do that but also have every single adventurer fail to wear helmets, it doesn't work that way. People can suspend disbelief that the adventurers aren't wearing helmets as an acceptable break for clarity, but only as long as the author isn't having the enemies easily take advantage with headshots while the only character with a helmet proves immune.