Crossover Migrant Fleet (ME) Finds the Sol System (The Expanse)

[Bacle]

What it says on the tin.

In the scenario, assume:
-That that the Sol Relay is unlocked by a desperate Quarian on pilgrimage while running from batarians in the Arturus system (maybe Tali's pilgrimage went a little sideways), and they end up causing the ice around Charon to shatter during the Relay activation on our end.
-The Prothean ruins on Mars will end up being in what amounts to an MCRN weapons testing range that was considered a useless dump due to lack of minerals, and were buried by weapons tests before they could be discovered. The MCRN will note odd formations underground in later seismic imaging, but dimiss it as a scietific curiosity till the Quarian's detect the Eezo in the ruins.

For Earth, time-wise:
A) Pre-Eros but post Protomolecule discovery
B) Post Ring Formation, Pre-Ring Activation
C) Post Season 6

For Mass Effect time-wise:
Assume it happens shortly after Saren is made a Specter or Tali begin's her Pilgrimage.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Well, I think a lot of what occurs depends on the Ring-builders (I'll call them the Protoss for now ) & Mass Effect Relay-builders (Reapers).

Are they the same entity? If so, everyone is screwed when the Reapers come calling.

If different: the Protoss either developed the rings b/c they 'grew up' in a system/systems without any Relays, OR they figured out that the Relay network was trap of some sort. Then, the Reaper cycle began, and the Protoss activated their failsafe to try and protect themselves. I'm guessing that the Reapers still managed to find and eradicate all the Protoss.

I'll assume that the latter is correct for this. In all cases, everyone flips out a little bit when a MASSIVE alien fleet that outnumbers all the forces in the Sol System handily arrives near Charon. Anything aggressive in all cases gets completely squashed by the Migrant Fleet's defenders. It would likely lead the Migrant Fleet to 'sell' Earth's location data to the Batarians in exchange for passage out. Then the Batarians attack and enslave Sol.

A) Pre-Eros but post Protomolecule discovery

The most 'stable' of the 3 times. Earth and Mars will be willing to deal, and the Belters will try to do the same as well, but that could go sideways fast. Possible tech exchanges if Mars & Earth have anything the Migrants want. Though the Belters would have some leeway in that the Belt and Outer Planets are vast resources the Migrant fleet would like to harness for themselves to replenish their stores.
Protomolecule is a huge thing that may just make the Migrants run for the hills anyway. Synthetic Life Form Boogeyman.

B) Post Ring Formation, Pre-Ring Activation

Migrants also go holy crap in regards to the ring and the Synthetic Life Form Boogeyman. The war is kinda hot, and all the Sol polities look a little insane. They may not be ready to deal with anyone except to gain rights to access resources. Once the ring activates and becomes useable...they'd likely be willing to send Quarian Pilgrims through in order to see what they can find.
The Quarians would love the idea of finding resources where they don't have the native suspicions of the Council races in ME to deal with.

C) Post Season 6

At this point, I think the belters lose any sympathy b/c Markos sent poison down gravity well. He'd be a rabid dog to the Migrant Fleet that yearns to return to their planet but can't. Matter of fact, the Quarians may have tech to help Earth deal with the problems Earth is facing. They can keep their life support going for ages, and that likely means they know how to purify/extract contaminants at a very effective rate.

 

[Bacle]

Well, I think a lot of what occurs depends on the Ring-builders (I'll call them the Protoss for now ) & Mass Effect Relay-builders (Reapers).

Are they the same entity? If so, everyone is screwed when the Reapers come calling.

If different: the Protoss either developed the rings b/c they 'grew up' in a system/systems without any Relays, OR they figured out that the Relay network was trap of some sort. Then, the Reaper cycle began, and the Protoss activated their failsafe to try and protect themselves. I'm guessing that the Reapers still managed to find and eradicate all the Protoss.

I'll assume that the latter is correct for this. In all cases, everyone flips out a little bit when a MASSIVE alien fleet that outnumbers all the forces in the Sol System handily arrives near Charon. Anything aggressive in all cases gets completely squashed by the Migrant Fleet's defenders. It would likely lead the Migrant Fleet to 'sell' Earth's location data to the Batarians in exchange for passage out. Then the Batarians attack and enslave Sol.


The most 'stable' of the 3 times. Earth and Mars will be willing to deal, and the Belters will try to do the same as well, but that could go sideways fast. Possible tech exchanges if Mars & Earth have anything the Migrants want. Though the Belters would have some leeway in that the Belt and Outer Planets are vast resources the Migrant fleet would like to harness for themselves to replenish their stores.
Protomolecule is a huge thing that may just make the Migrants run for the hills anyway. Synthetic Life Form Boogeyman.

Migrants also go holy crap in regards to the ring and the Synthetic Life Form Boogeyman. The war is kinda hot, and all the Sol polities look a little insane. They may not be ready to deal with anyone except to gain rights to access resources. Once the ring activates and becomes useable...they'd likely be willing to send Quarian Pilgrims through in order to see what they can find.
The Quarians would love the idea of finding resources where they don't have the native suspicions of the Council races in ME to deal with.

At this point, I think the belters lose any sympathy b/c Markos sent poison down gravity well. He'd be a rabid dog to the Migrant Fleet that yearns to return to their planet but can't. Matter of fact, the Quarians may have tech to help Earth deal with the problems Earth is facing. They can keep their life support going for ages, and that likely means they know how to purify/extract contaminants at a very effective rate.

Let's assume the Ring/Protomolecule makers were not the Reapers, and in fact pre-date the Reapers (based on how long it would take to launch Phoebe to the Sol system vs how long the Reaper cycle supposedly has gone on for).

Alps, post S6 means Marcos is no more, and Drummer is the head of the Belt/Transport Union.

How would the Quarians react the the Epstein Drive is another big thing. Having high effiency fusion drives, instead of anti-matter powered drives with Eezo cores, might be appealing to the Quarians.

Also, how does the Sol system reacts to the discovery of the Prothean ruins on Mars, and the fact it means aliens have visited the Sol System when humanity was still coming down from the trees?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Alps, post S6 means Marcos is no more, and Drummer is the head of the Belt/Transport Union.

Yup, I'm mistaken. So take that tidbit for sometime after Timeline #2 starts.

Excepting whatever the Mars idiots are doing (I haven't read the books that far) the Sol System could likely be heavily rejuvenated, and I think a lot of people are looking for a reason to stop the stupidity. The Migrant Fleet is a uniting factor if used properly.

How would the Quarians react the the Epstein Drive is another big thing. Having high effiency fusion drives, instead of anti-matter powered drives with Eezo cores, might be appealing to the Quarians.

Depends on if the Epstein drive works with the ME Inertial Compensators. Additionally, it feels like it would still be MUCH slower than the ME drives. I don't have any hard numbers there, just from the sense of ME story telling. What it could become is a viable alternative if Eezo becomes hard to come by for the Migrant Fleet.

Also, how does the Sol system reacts to the discovery of the Prothean ruins on Mars, and the fact it means aliens have visited the Sol System when humanity was still coming down from the trees?

"Well, shit. In for a penny in for a pound I guess."

They've already established that aliens existed/exist. Then the Migrant Fleet happens to show, showing that they DO presently exist. I think the Prothean ruins will be seen as historically relevant and potentially a technological boon depending on what's actually there. This could result in fighting over the benefits...what am I saying, this is the Expanse. There'll be fighting.

And somehow James Holden will piss off the Quarians. It's his schtick.

 

[Bacle]

Excepting whatever the Mars idiots are doing (I haven't read the books that far) the Sol System could likely be heavily rejuvenated, and I think a lot of people are looking for a reason to stop the stupidity. The Migrant Fleet is a uniting factor if used properly.

I've only watched the show, but I expect that another alien situation popping up might cause earth and Mars to realize there are bigger issues than either's pride now. Though Mars is still fucked when people realize their are a lot of habitable worlds out there.

Depends on if the Epstein drive works with the ME Inertial Compensators. Additionally, it feels like it would still be MUCH slower than the ME drives. I don't have any hard numbers there, just from the sense of ME story telling. What it could become is a viable alternative if Eezo becomes hard to come by for the Migrant Fleet.

It's more that Epstein Drives don't need anti-matter containment equipment for their fuel.

Not a small benefit, when you put living space and reliability at a premium like the Migrant Fleet does.

"Well, shit. In for a penny in for a pound I guess."

They've already established that aliens existed/exist. Then the Migrant Fleet happens to show, showing that they DO presently exist. I think the Prothean ruins will be seen as historically relevant and potentially a technological boon depending on what's actually there. This could result in fighting over the benefits...what am I saying, this is the Expanse. There'll be fighting.

Yeah, MCRN or the UN might try something stupid to try to keep/get the tech from the other.

If nothing else because it has the only bits of Eezo in the Sol System, and trying to go beyond the Sol System for Eezo is going to open Earth up to the wider galaxy. When the Council learns what happened, then things will get interesting; expect batarian pirates and slavers would try to blitz the Sol System unless the Council gets ships here first. Which would have other issues, when the Council learned the quarians activated a dormant relay on their own.

And somehow James Holden will piss off the Quarians. It's his schtick.

Nah, Holden's and the Roci are probably the poor smucks who end up doing first contact with the Charon Relay opens, because no one else in the system has the experience with weird alien shit that the Roci crew does. Also Holden can explain the protomolecule shit better than anyone short of Coritsar.

Also gonna admit Tali and Naomi geeking out over each other's stuff is a nice imagine.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

And you know our favorite tough is gonna say something to make Tali blush.

 

[Husky_Khan]

And you know our favorite tough is gonna say something to make Tali blush.

Yesssss!

For example...

Humans can pipe anything and end up with viable results. Proving once again that Humanity is superior and the Pius Dea crusade era was founded on facts.

Oh you meant in the Expanse show.

 

[Spartan303]

Earth and Mars get their economies revitalized and begin a massive upgrade and mobilization program. Honestly, I'd keep the ring open for this. The prospect of finding a new world to colonize away from council space and beyond reach of them or the Geth is very tempting. The Quarians would certainly be willing to trade technology for that and long term treaty with Earth.

The problem is going to be the council. Soon as they learn about what the Quarians have done they're going to amass a fleet to secure the Relay and push the Quarians off the relay or they're going in to pacify everything. If they go in with that attitude then its full on war until the Council steps in. But if the Turians recognize the importance of the Ring Gate they may not stop until they take Earth and Mars. They'll likely fail, but what they'll do is fallback to Arcturus and fortify it. Keep it as a new stronghold to box Humanity in. Humanity will be fine through the ring gates, but through the Relay network they're fucked with the Turians camped out on their backdoor.

Now, the Council can likely negotiate the Turians off that and hand that network of Mass Relays over to Humanity. But now they'll want to leverage that for access to the Ring gate. Not sure how that'll play out.

lot of possibilities here.

And you know our favorite tough is gonna say something to make Tali blush.

He's gonna do more than that. Dude is absolutely going to try and get some alien poon.