On bureaucracies

[Aldarion]

Part of the problem is that governments often excuse their bloat as a way of providing jobs for people. Actually, that's kinda the case across the board; I suspect that if businesses were also forced to trim the fat, you'd suddenly find that there are far less jobs to go around. The value of labor would probably tank overnight.

In case of governments, it is often the case of providing jobs specifically for their voters / party members etc. But one has to ask whether bureocratic bloat cuts into real sectors... I know in Croatia a lot of people cannot start businesses due to overregulation and extreme bureocratization.

 

[Culsu]

Honestly, from everything I've heard about government employment, much of it could be improved by going to Klingon disciplinary measures and/or automating the job away with basic AI.

However, a lot of the problem is the fact that a lot of regulations that are obsolete or need reworking still exist, instead of having sunset clauses that force them to be renewed or replaced, which would provide an organic way to simplify the fucking absurd Federal register.

Sort of. In my experience, a lot of the sluggishness of bureaucratic processes can be boiled down to three factors: ever-increasing pressures from legislation - ie. new laws -, the problem of delayed responses, and a *near* absolute lack of incentives for employees to excell.

 

[ATP]

Money for civil servants - once they all was wealthy people who do not needed money,so they could take almost nothinh.I read about polish arictocrat who after WW2 become minister and do not take any money for it.
In England and pre-WW2 Poland should be more such cases
But now - they must live from that,and their families,too.So - small number of cyvil servants,and good pay.

 

[Simonbob]

In case of governments, it is often the case of providing jobs specifically for their voters / party members etc. But one has to ask whether bureocratic bloat cuts into real sectors... I know in Croatia a lot of people cannot start businesses due to overregulation and extreme bureocratization.

Same in Australian.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Bureaucracies hate the the small businesses, they prefer oligopolies, because then they can simply deal with couple of smaller bureaucracies, a peer to near-peer contact. In ex-Yugoslavia this is also tinged with the leftover mentality from the previous system where small level private business was allowed but not welcome.

 

[ATP]

If bureaucrats looked like that,i would forgive them:


/Servant and sevice,11 episodes/

 

[PeaceMaker 03]

What does government produce? What does it produce of value?

I have thought about this for a bit. My only valid answer is Security, Military/ Intel/ International relations. Ironically one of the few things the Constitution enumerates as a power of the Federal Government.

Issues with our current government bureaucracy:
1) .60 cents if every government dollar is spent administrative itself, the other .40 cents is spent doing whatever the agency’s mandate is.
2) The government has empowered federal agencies with powers way beyond reason. The Constitution set up a system of “separated powers”, which have been made thanks and void because now federal agencies are given legislative, judicial, and executive power. Power to unelected bureaucrats.( that is not including private entities that have a monopoly and act as a federal agency, without official oversized: US Federal Reaerve....cough cough)
3) Never been able to find legal basis for federal felony that are regulations. At last look 7000+ regulatory felonies.
4) Might not need as man bureaucrats if our legislators worked more than 6 months a year. Joking aside any more legislators pass a law, then the bureaucrats write all the regulation that makes up the law.
-As late as 1985 the courts have decided regulations have no power to citizens, only government, government employees, and fictions that are legal persons, ie. corporations and companies.