Republicanism in Europe without both World Wars?

WolfBear

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Just how much would republicanism have spread in Europe in a scenario where both World Wars never actually occur? In 1914, out of Europe's large countries, only France, Switzerland, and Portugal were already republics. Who else would have eventually joined the republican club in this scenario?
 

WolfBear

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A map of European republics in 1914:


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A map of European republics in 1930:


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A map of European republics in 1950:


Europe_1950_monarchies_versus_republics.png


A map of European republics in 2015:


Europe_2015_monarchies_versus_republics.png


It seems like Greece was the only European country that permanently became a republic after 1914 in the absence of any wars.
 

gral

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Interesting. Anyway, what about my original question here?
I doubt many countries would become republics absent the World Wars. Greece may be a candidate(if they try to go for Constantinople/Asia Minor and lose as big as they did in 1922). Spain as well(they went back to becoming a monarchy after all). Other than that? You'd need some pretty big upheaval to get more republics(fuck, I wouldn't even discard Portugal becoming a monarchy again).
 

WolfBear

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I doubt many countries would become republics absent the World Wars. Greece may be a candidate(if they try to go for Constantinople/Asia Minor and lose as big as they did in 1922). Spain as well(they went back to becoming a monarchy after all). Other than that? You'd need some pretty big upheaval to get more republics(fuck, I wouldn't even discard Portugal becoming a monarchy again).

What about Russia?
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
What about Russia?

Main reason for the fall of Imperial Russia and the Revolution was the war. In fact, Russia was quickly modernizing at the time, and if it hadn't been for the World War I, Communists would have been stuck either trying to force revolution now, or else getting the rug pulled out from under their feet. Either way, I do not see them succeeding, which is why I always say that World War I destroyed Europe.
 

WolfBear

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Main reason for the fall of Imperial Russia and the Revolution was the war. In fact, Russia was quickly modernizing at the time, and if it hadn't been for the World War I, Communists would have been stuck either trying to force revolution now, or else getting the rug pulled out from under their feet. Either way, I do not see them succeeding, which is why I always say that World War I destroyed Europe.

To be fair, Russia had two revolutions in 1917, not just one. The first one was liberal and democratic, the second one was totalitarian and tyrannical.
 

bintananth

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Interesting. Anyway, what about my original question here?
Ireland, and that's about it if the British don't completely crush the Irish rebels. Go to the East and I could see Imperal Russia and/or The Ottoman Empire collapsing if their leadership screws things up in the absence of a war. Austria-Hungary probably stays together as a reform-minded multi-ethnic constitutional monarchy.
 

WolfBear

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Ireland, and that's about it if the British don't completely crush the Irish rebels. Go to the East and I could see Imperal Russia and/or The Ottoman Empire collapsing if their leadership screws things up in the absence of a war. Austria-Hungary probably stays together as a reform-minded multi-ethnic constitutional monarchy.

If the Ottoman Empire collapses, what happens to its Caliphate?
 

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