ROB drop you in Westeros

[ATP]

Copy of ROB dropping in Tamriel,but with ROB being slighty merciful dick,and in Westeros,becouse i knew little about Tamriel.

So,you are dropped in Westeros when :
A.Ned found direwolf pups
B.When Mountain attack Riverlands
C.When Theon take Winterfall


1.You are kgbstan mobik corporal with body armour,helmet,AK74,grenades and Makarow pistol.
Sniper with semi-automatic rifle is with you.

also 10 mobiks with 1PKM,1 RPG7,8 rusty AK47.Helmets and grenades.One is medic,oter chemistry teacher/future moonshine/
All your friend from Donbas,so would follow orders.

Truck with HMG,driver,and additional ammo and spare parts.

2.You are soviet sergeant from 1942 with semi-automatic rifle,luger,grenades,helmet. And sniper with Mosin rifle.Jeep with HMG and driver for you.One medic

2 squads 10 each,corporal with PPSZ,1LMG,mosins ,helmets,grenades,truck with HMG and additional ammo.At least one is chemistry teacher/moonshine and MAYBE explosives/


3.1869 Paraguay war -

you are captain with good horse,Spencer rifle,2 revolvers,saber made from toledan steel.
Retinue - Doctor,witch doctor,chemistry teacher/moonshine and MAYBE blackpowder/
Huntsmen with elephant gun./for Mountain or mammoths/
Giant 7 foot boduguard with rifled musket,revolver,old spanish helbard from Toledan steel,old spanish semi-plate armour.
Horse,too.

1+10 calvary - lances,sabers,carbines,corporal have revolver.

1+50 infrantry - sergeant have rifled musket,bayonet and shortsword. soldiers - muskets and bayonets.Axes,too
1+50 infrantry - sergeant the same,soldiers - spears and axes.

10 wagons with drivers/they have spears/

1 12 pound gun with crew and 3 wagons with ammo./could be changed to 6 pounder if you prefer it/

Choose your unit and scenario!
P.S all soldiers are loyal to you,and would fight at least till 50% die.

 

[Buba]

I chose 1 - for the body armour, and 1, for more time to run off and start a trading empire in moonshine. Somebody on the team must know - close enough is good enough - how to make vodka from potatos or grain.

Ak-74 or mid XIXth century musket - no matter, once the ammunition is gone they are nice pieces of steel, it is impossible for 10 to 100 guys to recreate the ammunition in a meaningful timescale.
So, switch to single shot

One suggestion - 12 pdr is overkill and not very mobile. Six pounder (which uses less gunpowder) is fully adequate to blast open castle/city gates.
Option #3 is tempting due to number of men behind my back.

 

[ATP]

I chose 1 - for the body armour, and 1, for more time to run off and start a trading empire in moonshine. Somebody on the team must know - close enough is good enough - how to make vodka from potatos or grain.

Ak-74 or mid XIXth century musket - no matter, once the ammunition is gone they are nice pieces of steel, it is impossible for 10 to 100 guys to recreate the ammunition in a meaningful timescale.
So, switch to single shot

One suggestion - 12 pdr is overkill and not very mobile. Six pounder (which uses less gunpowder) is fully adequate to blast open castle/city gates.
Option #3 is tempting due to number of men behind my back.

You have a point,so:
1.I add medic and chemistry teacher in 1&2 units among consprict - to help injured and for future moonshine.

2.3 third unit - i would add real doctor,witch doctor,huntsmen with elephant gun for Mountain or giants,and replace 12 pounder with 6 pounder.
And loyal 7th foot superstrong bodyguard with rifled musket,revolver, old spanish helbard/but made with Toledo steel/ ,and old spanish semi-plate armour.

Scenario A/meet Ned/ - unit 1,teach them making moonshine and MAYBE explosives,I go with him to Kingslanding leaving rest in Winterfall/i would told them what should happen/
Schoot Jaime in both arms during attack on Ned,then schoot 20 Lannister men there.

Try to persuade Ned to come back to North,if notching happen go to take power with rifle in Slynt back.If he betray,schoot him and Baelish if i had time.
And die.Rest of my boys could save Westeros,or not.

Scenario B/Mountain raid/
There was 400-300 raiders - so,i would simply choose good terrain/open/ and send 2 trucks with HMG to schoot them.

Rest would hide in trench and schoot from afar,the same for Jeep with HMG.Order sniper to kill Mountain first.
They should be routed after that.


Go to Dorne with Mountain head after that,and made moonshine,and maybe explosives there.


Scenario 3 - wait till Ramsay attack other northerns and take Winterfall,and attack them with lancers when they enter Winterfall,schoot few and widraw,when they go after them schoot them with grapeschoots and muskets.

Take their armour and schields for my soldiers,attack gate with cannon and enter Castle schooting every Bolton i meet.
I would lost 20-30%,but it would be worth it.

 

[King Arts]

Option 3 is best you have almost 100 men make a mercenary company and do very well for yourself.

 

[Buba]

Option 3 is best you have almost 100 men make a mercenary company and do very well for yourself.

True. If you are smart you pool ALL the gunpowder and save it for the cannon. And you hire yourself out as the GateSmashers TM. You are guarantied employment for years, as well as protection by the rest of the army.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

True. If you are smart you pool ALL the gunpowder and save it for the cannon. And you hire yourself out as the GateSmashers TM. You are guarantied employment for years, as well as protection by the rest of the army.

Until they kill you to take your toys because someone, likely the ravens, will have enough hubris to think they can figure out how to do everything you do.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

This is one where no matter what 'me' I pick, I'm going to be looking for a very defensible place I can manage.

And then I'd keep my little piece of the pie the HELL AWAY from the Westerosi insanity.

 

[ATP]

This is one where no matter what 'me' I pick, I'm going to be looking for a very defensible place I can manage.

And then I'd keep my little piece of the pie the HELL AWAY from the Westerosi insanity.

Good point.

Go to Braavos,and live as bodyguards there? and try made blackpowder and moonshine,too.

 

[Doomsought]

True. If you are smart you pool ALL the gunpowder and save it for the cannon. And you hire yourself out as the GateSmashers TM. You are guarantied employment for years, as well as protection by the rest of the army.

Any military force that uses black powder knows how to make it. Also musket ball moulds were standard kit.

 

[ATP]

Any military force that uses black powder knows how to make it. Also musket ball moulds were standard kit.

Then 3 option is best.Some smith could made working AK47 or Mosin,but making ammo for them is impssible in those times.

Which time and place would you choose for yourself?
Remember,you could try run to Braavos,but must appear in Westeros !

 

[King Arts]

Then 3 option is best.Some smith could made working AK47 or Mosin,but making ammo for them is impssible in those times.

Which time and place would you choose for yourself?
Remember,you could try run to Braavos,but must appear in Westeros !

Yes middle eastern blacksmiths have made AKs you can make it using medieval materials and skills. It’s just that people in the Middle Ages did not have the blue prints but if you gave them one they could make it. But as a mercenary the best thing to do is to join the Lannisters till Tywin dies then after making money go to Bravos and work for them, or the disputed lands.

 

[Doomsought]

Then 3 option is best.Some smith could made working AK47 or Mosin,but making ammo for them is impssible in those times.

Yup, smokeless powder is highly effective, but it is a major pain in the ass to get it chemically stabilized.

As for time period, the earlier the better.

 

[Buba]

Any military force that uses black powder knows how to make it. Also musket ball moulds were standard kit.

Not at company level which we are talking about.
The grunts and subaltern know what it is made off, but not how exactly.
Percussion caps are unobtainable, BTW.

 

[ATP]

Yes middle eastern blacksmiths have made AKs you can make it using medieval materials and skills. It’s just that people in the Middle Ages did not have the blue prints but if you gave them one they could make it. But as a mercenary the best thing to do is to join the Lannisters till Tywin dies then after making money go to Bravos and work for them, or the disputed lands.

I would still try hunt Mountain during his raid/3 scenario/ ,and go to Dorne with his head.

Not at company level which we are talking about.
The grunts and subaltern know what it is made off, but not how exactly.
Percussion caps are unobtainable, BTW.

What caps ? half dudes have spears,other half - old Napoleon era muskets.
Only leader have Spencer rifle,and huntsmen Elephant guns.calvary have old calvary carbines,no caps needed.
Well,two sergeants and bodyguard have rifled muskets,so they would have problems.

 

[Buba]

I would still try hunt Mountain during his raid/3 scenario/ ,and go to Dorne with his head.


What caps ? half dudes have spears,other half - old Napoleon era muskets.
Only leader have Spencer rifle,and huntsmen Elephant guns.calvary have old calvary carbines,no caps needed.
Well,two sergeants and bodyguard have rifled muskets,so they would have problems.

Then you should had specified "flintlocks".
By 1869 I assume - wrongly? - that caplocks had universaly replaced flintlocks.
Rifled muskets can be - and during Napoleonic Wars certainly were - flintlocks.

Having a working flintlock model is GOLD - it is a COMPLICATED mechanism with finely made moving parts - and skilled artisans can recreat it.
From description of grunt (NCO usually better) - maybe yes, maybe not - but doubtlessly it would take time for trail and error in fitting all those finnicky small parts. Look at OTL Japan and China - even having access to flintlocks they kept on making matchlocks up to mid XIXth century as these were much, much easier to make ...

 

[ATP]

Then you should had specified "flintlocks".
By 1869 I assume - wrongly? - that caplocks had universaly replaced flintlocks.
Rifled muskets can be - and during Napoleonic Wars certainly were - flintlocks.

Having a working flintlock model is GOLD - it is a COMPLICATED mechanism with finely made moving parts - and skilled artisans can recreat it.
From description of grunt (NCO usually better) - maybe yes, maybe not - but doubtlessly it would take time for trail and error in fitting all those finnicky small parts. Look at OTL Japan and China - even having access to flintlocks they kept on making matchlocks up to mid XIXth century as these were much, much easier to make ...

I read memories of some polish gentry/forget author and title,as usual/ , that he and his friends used sometimes matchlocks,too.
Made by local blacksmith.

 

[Doomsought]

Having a working flintlock model is GOLD - it is a COMPLICATED mechanism with finely made moving parts - and skilled artisans can recreat it.

Not really. The reason that the flintlock is a huge improvement over previous actions is that it is significantly simpler than it's predecessors.

 

[ATP]

Not really. The reason that the flintlock is a huge improvement over previous actions is that it is significantly simpler than it's predecessors.

So,if you get unit 3/Paraguay 1869/ ,and could drop them in Westeros in any time and place you choose,what would you do?

 

[Wishing Whale]

When Ned finds the puppies.

And I'm going with 2.

Put those down, I'm sure their mother is nearby.

It seems he doesn't speak our language, frankly I didn't either till a few minutes ago.

Go conquer his fortress and try to modernize if at all possible, it should be.

Everyone with me knows more than me about somethings but I know the seasons here are screwy before it's winter, we need to make Wintergrad a more livable city.

 

[ATP]

When Ned finds the puppies.

And I'm going with 2.

Put those down, I'm sure their mother is nearby.

It seems he doesn't speak our language, frankly I didn't either till a few minutes ago.

Go conquer his fortress and try to modernize if at all possible, it should be.

Everyone with me knows more than me about somethings but I know the seasons here are screwy before it's winter, we need to make Wintergrad a more livable city.

Try to conqer Ned castle? suicide,even if i win.