Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread

They are also more nationalistic



Yep, absolutely, with Le Pen and Zemmour both running to Macron's right on things such as immigration.
That does not mean that they will be anti Russia, they could be pro Russia, and anti America.
 
That does not mean that they will be anti Russia, they could be pro Russia, and anti America.

Very true, but it's also worth noting that Putin isn't a big fan of Muhammad cartoons, preferring to cuck on this issue rather than to defend Charlie Hebdo's right to freedom of expression:

 
Very true, but it's also worth noting that Putin isn't a big fan of Muhammad cartoons, preferring to cuck on this issue rather than to defend Charlie Hebdo's right to freedom of expression:

That just makes him smart. Why the fuck should he care? To him this is a conflict between Islamists and French, Putin believes in real politic, only the dumber western nations want to stick their noses and opinions everywhere. Also Charlie Hebdo believe in freedom of expression which Putin does not believe in. So Muslim terrorists a group Russia sometimes fights, attacked a group who ideologically annoys Putin. What possible bennefit would he gain by doing anything?
 
That just makes him smart. Why the fuck should he care? To him this is a conflict between Islamists and French, Putin believes in real politic, only the dumber western nations want to stick their noses and opinions everywhere. Also Charlie Hebdo believe in freedom of expression which Putin does not believe in. So Muslim terrorists a group Russia sometimes fights, attacked a group who ideologically annoys Putin. What possible bennefit would he gain by doing anything?
To Putin the matter of Islamists is above all tied to the region of Caucasus with both parts of Russia like Chechnya, and nearby ex-Soviet "stans" with Muslim populations. Of course he wants to placate them, if he doesn't it will be his problem, and on the other hand trying to cast himself as defender of free speech would be an obviously dangerous maneuver for him, considering how politics work there.
 
To Putin the matter of Islamists is above all tied to the region of Caucasus with both parts of Russia like Chechnya, and nearby ex-Soviet "stans" with Muslim populations. Of course he wants to placate them, if he doesn't it will be his problem, and on the other hand trying to cast himself as defender of free speech would be an obviously dangerous maneuver for him, considering how politics work there.
Exactly it would be a risky move, with no or very little benefit, helping a group that isn't his best friend.
It's stupid just like Westerners whining about the rights of Muslim Uighurs. The Muslims aren't our friends, but neither is the other side.
 
Exactly it would be a risky move, with no or very little benefit, helping a group that isn't his best friend.
It's stupid just like Westerners whining about the rights of Muslim Uighurs. The Muslims aren't our friends, but neither is the other side.
Well for westerners it doesn't conflict with their internal politics, so its "enemy of my enemy" situation. It would conflict with their own internal politics if they were going full Serbia at the same time.
 
If a deal can be via the intra-Euro talks, good.

Choice lines:

"Mr Macron told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper that Russia's objective was "not Ukraine, but a clarification of the rules... with Nato and the EU".

"We must protect our European brothers by proposing a new balance capable of preserving their sovereignty and peace," he said.

"This must be done while respecting Russia and understanding the contemporary traumas of this great people and great nation."

The French president has called for a renewed relationship with Russia before, and in January he said the EU should open its own dialogue with Moscow, rather than rely on Washington.

However, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba appeared to play down the threat of an imminent invasion, tweeting on Sunday: "Do not believe the apocalyptic predictions. Different capitals have different scenarios, but Ukraine is ready for any development."


The Euro's seem to be able to handle this issue more maturely than DC can.
Follow-up on that, whatever he was trying seems to be a massive flop:
Kremlin says 'French assertions that...Putin had promised...Macron that Moscow would not carry out new military initiatives around Ukraine for now were "not right". A French official said Putin had made the pledge during long talks in Moscow'
 
Follow-up on that, whatever he was trying seems to be a massive flop:
Putin never did promise not to do stuff with Belarus or in Russian territory, in the BBC article.

This sounds like people trying to stir trouble up between Putin and Macron by saying Putin is breaking a pledge that he doesn't actually seem to have made.

So it is too soon to say Macron's meeting with Putin and the whatever deal they discussed is a 'flop'.

US media legacy like Reuters also has a very definite motive to play by the narrative DC wants, and disrupt any deal/agreement made between European powers and Russia, if said deal was not DC approved/embarrassed DC by being left out.
So first you go to CNN to get articles hyping up the hysteria, and now you go to NPR.

It's almost as if legacy media and the establishment Left are also full of neolib warhawks.
 
Putin never did promise not to do stuff with Belarus or in Russian territory, in the BBC article.

This sounds like people trying to stir trouble up between Putin and Macron by saying Putin is breaking a pledge that he doesn't actually seem to have made.

So it is too soon to say Macron's meeting with Putin and the whatever deal they discussed is a 'flop'.

US media legacy like Reuters also has a very definite motive to play by the narrative DC wants, and disrupt any deal/agreement made between European powers and Russia, if said deal was not DC approved/embarrassed DC by being left out.
So first you go to CNN to get articles hyping up the hysteria, and now you go to NPR.

It's almost as if legacy media and the establishment Left are also full of neolib warhawks.
It was the first ones to show it. Look for sources you trust then.
Fine more of them.

But obviously you would rather suck off Russia then think they would do something to make themselves look good.
 
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Putin never did promise not to do stuff with Belarus or in Russian territory, in the BBC article.

This sounds like people trying to stir trouble up between Putin and Macron by saying Putin is breaking a pledge that he doesn't actually seem to have made.

So it is too soon to say Macron's meeting with Putin and the whatever deal they discussed is a 'flop'.
He did according to... Macron.
Considering that the military maneuvers are remaining on their previous, concerning course, i see no sign of it being a success. Hence it is a flop.
 

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