What if the Russian and American False Flag Operations encounter each other and that sparks the conflict?!
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What if the Russian and American False Flag Operations encounter each other and that sparks the conflict?!
Top hardline Russian general warns Putin NOT to invade Ukraine
Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov penned an open letter in which he blasted Putin's 'criminal policy of provoking a war' despite Russia not facing any 'critical threats'.
So those of you who think its all NATO/Warhawk/CIA psyop... why is suddenly a retired Russian general (not defector) talking about the risks of invading Ukraine?
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This is completely backwards reasoning.
If Germany cared about having lots of cheap energy, they would have to start with treating their Green party worse than they treat AFD and all of its ideas, and then doing whatever the most Russia skeptic EU countries are doing, because those have merely average energy prices in the EU, while Germany has one of the highest (thanks to listening to Greens).
But then again, if they weren't listening to the Greens, they wouldn't need much gas.
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History will see it as the natural evolution of proxy wars. Just have the nations in question duke it out while denying the forces are actually theirs.What if the Russian and American False Flag Operations encounter each other and that sparks the conflict?!
Agent23
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>2022Top hardline Russian general warns Putin NOT to invade Ukraine
Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov penned an open letter in which he blasted Putin's 'criminal policy of provoking a war' despite Russia not facing any 'critical threats'.www.dailymail.co.uk
So those of you who think its all NATO/Warhawk/CIA psyop... why is suddenly a retired Russian general (not defector) talking about the risks of invading Ukraine?
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Yeah, I trust that site, sure, sure.
The guy was dismissed(fired) over 20 years ago, as part of some major restructuring initiated by Putin, ya think he isn't butthurt?
I doubt he is familiar with the current intelligence or even as mentally capable as he was back during his active service, he is pushing 80.
I mean, it is not like there aren't dissenting generals in America as well, Milley and Mattis opposed Trump, Flynn opposed the deep state, Ike opposed the Military-Industrial complex etc, etc.
Except the greens are part of the whole globohomo, flying unicorn shitting rainbows establishment.
They punch way above their weight and are probably backed by big corpos and some other governments.
Germany cut its nuclear power and is trying to force its citizens to consume less power because of these imbeciles, but german business is still strong where lobbying is concerned and they really wanted this pipeline and really want access to the Russian markets, bilateral trade is iirc close to 100 Billion per year.
Qatari or Saudi or US gas will not be cheaper, and in Germany any populist uprising will probably be treated like the 2nd coming of Hitler, both within and without.
Russian sites AFAIK don't jsve https very often
Agent23
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The 2 sites I found while duckduckgo-ing this guy did.
Yandex uses it.
A bunch of russian cosplayer e-thot themed sites I frequent for ahem, research, use it.
Also, if you are just delivering static content it isn't technically all that bad, evesroppers though, will know what you read and google outright told everyone that it prioritizes sites that use https.
I mean, free short-term certificates from letsencrypt/EFF provided automatically via DNS record verification are a thing.
Use a free proxy if you are worried, duh...
Welp, he will see. If this turns out to be a nothingburger, all he did was waste what little political capital he had left.
If not...
My point exactly. Why are globohomo champions of all people making Germany reliant on Russia for energy?
Of course German business wants the pipeline, because the only choice Greens and friends are giving them is pipeline or even higher energy prices with possibility of brownouts, of course they are picking the pipeline.
So, is there any reason why this has to be gas at all (not so cheap no matter the import source) other than Greens being assholes about it?
Agent23
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TBH I think the USA is financing a lot of this green gibberish so that it can sell overpriced venture capital nonsense like solar panels as well as its and its gulf friends' LNG to the rest of the world.
This also puts barriers to entry for competitors and makes them reliable on the US financial system, just look at the opposition to Keystone XL and see what the rich donors own.
US car companies, for example, love the electric car because that forces people to buy more new cars.
Also, you are misunderstanding the greens, their rank and file is a bunch of humanity-hating tree huggers, hell even the former cfounder of Greenpeace ditched them because they had gotten too loony.
Of coruse such fanaticism attracts lots of grifters, too.
As to the Germans, well, they are still trying to get themselves fully readmitted into the human race after what that Austrian artsy hispster commie did.
And if there is one thing the Krauts love to do, it is to act like lemmings, extremely orderly, extremely deferential towards authority and very, very moralistic and eager to prove what good, caring people they are.
I have dealt with a number of Germans, from Uni professors and coworkers, and they are damned bots, with the Eastern Germans I've interacted with paradoxically being the more individualistic, skeptical and freedom-loving/anti-establishment.
The whole Prussian/Protestant culture, probably.
It is sad more of them didn't get to live under Communism, they might be more willing to question the government, the experts and the media and the political parties and special interest groups.
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Evidence, please?
Solar panels themselves ironically benefit Chinese manufacturing the most, with 71% of global manufacturing in 2019...TBH I think the USA is financing a lot of this green gibberish so that it can sell overpriced venture capital nonsense like solar panels as well as its and its gulf friends' LNG to the rest of the world.
This also puts barriers to entry for competitors and makes them reliable on the US financial system, just look at the opposition to Keystone XL and see what the rich donors own.
US car companies, for example, love the electric car because that forces people to buy more new cars.
Regional distribution of solar module production | Statista
In 2022, China accounted for 77.8 percent of the global photovoltaic (PV) module production.
www.statista.com
Which is quite telling, if it was worthwhile electricity wise, China would be keeping most of that production for themselves.
Similar deal with EV batteries, China got almost half, and USA is not even in top 10, and that's the fast used part of EVs, US car manufacturers are better off selling normal car engines, at least they make those.
Ranked: The Top 10 EV Battery Manufacturers
With an increasing interest in electric vehicles (EVs), the battery market is now a $27 billion per year business.
elements.visualcapitalist.com
Yeah, watermelon's insanity in media and government combined with German's obedience to institutions is a dangerous combo. Ironically this is pushing them into a position where yet again they are trying to boss around all their neighbors with stupid shit, which is what got them into trouble in the previous cases.
PsihoKekec
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They are ramping up war hysteria, despite Ukraine begging them to stop ramping up the war hysteria.
Agent23
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Yeah, but who holds the patents and who bankrolls the production?Solar panels themselves ironically benefit Chinese manufacturing the most, with 71% of global manufacturing in 2019...
Regional distribution of solar module production | Statista
In 2022, China accounted for 77.8 percent of the global photovoltaic (PV) module production.
And a number of American financiers are heavily invested in China and bound to benefit, Ray Dalio, aka the guy that runs the biggest hedge fund on the planet, was recently criticized for being a China shill.The finance grifting involving that and other green stuff is most likely, but still, its a big export boon to China.
Which is quite telling, if it was worthwhile electricity wise, China would be keeping most of that production for themselves.
Similar deal with EV batteries, China got almost half, and USA is not even in top 10, and that's the fast used part of EVs, US car manufacturers are better off selling normal car engines, at least they make those.
Gulf friends would be doing fine either way, there CO2 obsession or not gas is still energy, India, China and most of third world would still take it off their hands gladly, they might make a dozen percent less profit per ton but still.Ranked: The Top 10 EV Battery Manufacturers
With an increasing interest in electric vehicles (EVs), the battery market is now a $27 billion per year business.
Similarly, Blackrock, which is the biggest financial institution on the planet and strongly connected to all the DEI/political correctness/green initiatives and the US Democratic party, is heavily invested in China.
Kissinger, who helped "open up" china, has been a China advocate and making large private consulting fees for it, for decades.
Qui Bono!
You can take the Kraut out of the National Socialist Hitler-Fascist Workers' party, but you can't take the National Socialist Hitler-Fascist Workers' party out of the Kraut it seems.
Well, all the Helgas want slavic dick, and they will probably get it, one way or the other, methinks a big part of the Austrian Hypster and his buddies going postal against slavs is the fact that they were afraid of us stealing their waminz.
Joke aside, German women do tend to show a rather strong interest in me whenever near, too bad they are usually fat and ugly.
Binkovs has finally released his video on the probable invasion.
It's interesting.
It's interesting.
>ChinaYeah, but who holds the patents and who bankrolls the production?
>Caring about patents
>Letting patents take big money from them
I don't think so.
Long story short, globohomo has no loyalties, and does its own thing, even if it means bankrolling own enemies. Its all momentum and connections. The neoliberal establishment got sucked into China business during Cold War, and got so addicted to the cheap labor and low industrial regulation that they can't stop themselves even though the strategic calculus has changed. Getting subverted by progressives didn't change anything in that regard except making that fact even more nonsensical because there is just too much money on the table.
Agent23
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Yeah, he is overestimating the Ukrainian desire to fight a partizan war and under-estimating the pro-Russia feelings in Eastern Ukraine.
As to sanctions, well, Russia has been working on an alternative for swift for years now, and about 1/3 of their internal payments are done via that alternate system, called Mir, and the system is ready to take over if SWIFT is removed, that system is connected to China's own.
Cutting off Russia from SWIFT and weaponizing the dollar against a great power right after inflating the money supply so massively will damage the dollar.Russia also has sizable gold reserves and the pre-SWIFT methods, like bearer bonds and the like are still an option.
Most countries in Western Europe won't give a fuck about Ukraine, they will be unhappy that they are losing billions in trade and are forced to pay more for oil and gas.
Agent23
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A boost to china's economy, even an indirect one, benefits these idiots, and they have been living in an ivory tower they think everyone plays by their rules.
Have a look at Mr.China for reference and a look into the minds of these morons.
Also I am pretty sure that they can block the imports of goods into the west that do not cover their "stringent eco standards", which they wrote to only cover their overpriced product that is probably made in the same factory that makes most of the knockoffs.
But you are in Poland, you, too must be familiar with "Eurofunds utilization".
As Baron Rothschild said, "give me control over a country's money supply and I care not who makes its laws."
"The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." - Lenin.
Globohomo just doesn't get it that China has been playing around, and that they will decouple themselves and go full on mercantilist in the coming years, IMHO.
Globohomo might be thinking in an outdated way, but they are still running the show, much like the French Aristocracy and Crowd did before getting guillotined.
Only a massive shock to the system will wake most of them up, IMO.
Its not 2014 anymore. The years of border skirmishing with separatists and Russian maneuvering around that didn't serve well to maintain what sympathy there was.
Add some war damages and Russia not being able to splurge on them on any meaningful scale, and disillusionment will hit hard.
Yup. They can't stand to leave the potential money on the table, the problem is that they don't seem to have a withdrawal strategy, while its a matter of time before they will regret not having one. All the CEOs are just hoping that shit mountain will not hit the fan on their watch.
Agent23
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In your opinion.
Every third Ukrainian ready to put up armed resistance to Russians
Only 23% of respondents to this survey are willing to put up actual resistance, with the majority of those being over 40, apparently.
This is in the whole country, so I am pretty sure that in the east it is a lot lower.
Also, young people don't care or will just see this as a way to migrate to the west more easily, leaving grannies and grandpas to play partizan.
Considering how badly the economy in Ukraine is doing I am pretty sure that the support for such an insurgency will be even lower today.
Yes, as I said, this system will not reform itself and it is extremely resistant and hostile towards attempts of peaceful reformation.
Also, you should give Burnham's The Machiavellians and Suicide of the West a look.
The libtard globohomo elite has been in place and doing the same shit over and over since before WWII, to that you can add growing corporativism and virtue signalling.
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23% are willing to become guerillas, 33% are willing to fight, about 50% are willing to put up some resistance, so don't mix up terms to make it sound lower.
Also, demographics, Ukraine is not exactly a young population country so makes sense middle aged are the majority numerically, Ukrainian's average age just so happens to be 42.
Overall, many western countries could only wish to get these figures in a similar survey.
And its not just my opinion, elections also confirm that sympathies changed:
Russia may have recovered a little of the support it lost at the height of the Donbass kerfuffle, but its nowhere near compensating for that loss.
Agent23
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40+ is hardly prime fighting age, the cap on conscription age for example is 35, the young and able-bodied don't really care.
This is the whole of Ukraine, so as I said, the Russian majority areas will probably have much smaller minorities willing to fight.