The 1980 Democratic presidential nominee if Gerald Ford wins in 1976?

Circle of Willis

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Why not Carter's running mate, Walter Mondale? He's a Midwestern (Minnesotan) Senator who sat in the center of the Democratic tent, was a dear friend to the late liberal Dem champion Hubert Humphrey, and seems to have had positive relationships with the other factions of the Democratic coalition (minorities, blue collar union types, academic progressives, and the Southern Dems like Carter himself alike). IIRC Mondale's status as a potential unifier with appeal to every corner of the party was a reason as to why Carter, being keenly aware that more progressive Democrats were leery of a Southerner like himself heading the ticket, chose him to be the 1976 VP candidate in the first place.

Alternatively among the options you posted, Carey would be a pretty interesting choice as well. Man managed NYC's economic crisis in the mid-'70s and seems to have been quite fiscally conservative for a late 20th century Democrat (slashing taxes, reducing spending, trying to induce growth with tax credits) if his record as Governor of NYS is any indicator. Considering his socially conservative shift (at least on abortion) toward the end of the '80s, and that a Ford '76 victory would keep the Rockefeller Republicans relevant for longer, a two-term Carey presidency spanning the '80s in Reagan's place might also have a much longer-term echo in the form of the Democratic Party evolving in a more populistic, conservative direction while the Republicans adopt a libertarian approach to social issues as well as economics.
 

WolfBear

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Why not Carter's running mate, Walter Mondale? He's a Midwestern (Minnesotan) Senator who sat in the center of the Democratic tent, was a dear friend to the late liberal Dem champion Hubert Humphrey, and seems to have had positive relationships with the other factions of the Democratic coalition (minorities, blue collar union types, academic progressives, and the Southern Dems like Carter himself alike). IIRC Mondale's status as a potential unifier with appeal to every corner of the party was a reason as to why Carter, being keenly aware that more progressive Democrats were leery of a Southerner like himself heading the ticket, chose him to be the 1976 VP candidate in the first place.

Alternatively among the options you posted, Carey would be a pretty interesting choice as well. Man managed NYC's economic crisis in the mid-'70s and seems to have been quite fiscally conservative for a late 20th century Democrat (slashing taxes, reducing spending, trying to induce growth with tax credits) if his record as Governor of NYS is any indicator. Considering his socially conservative shift (at least on abortion) toward the end of the '80s, and that a Ford '76 victory would keep the Rockefeller Republicans relevant for longer, a two-term Carey presidency spanning the '80s in Reagan's place might also have a much longer-term echo in the form of the Democratic Party evolving in a more populistic, conservative direction while the Republicans adopt a libertarian approach to social issues as well as economics.

Excellent analysis! What about Ted Kennedy? Would he be a realistic option for the Democrats in 1980 in this TL?

A Mondale-Carey ticket would be epic, but I wonder if having two Northerners on the ticket might be a bit too much. That said, though, Clinton-Gore 1992 in real life were two young white male Southerners, so diversity on a presidential ticket isn't always a requirement for winning! ;)
 

WolfBear

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@Circle of Willis Somewhat off-topic, but regardless of whether Ford or Carter wins in 1976, is there any realistic chance to get someone from Ohio elected US President in 1980? I'm asking due to the historical Ohio curse in regards to US Presidents:

AHC:

Have something comparable to the Ohio curse for US Presidents for a different US state:

In real life, we had four US Presidents from Ohio die in office and almost had a fifth follow in the same footsteps:

-1841: William Henry Harrison
-1881: James Garfield
-1901: William McKinley
-1923: Warren Harding

Near-miss (he almost defeated Eisenhower for the 1952 GOP nomination and would have likely won the US Presidency in 1952 had he been nominated by the GOP that year):

-1953: Robert Taft
 

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