The 'Dangerous Rise' Of Men Who Won’t Date Woke Women

[DarthOne]

In which, I, DarthOne brings you news from the crazy side....🤡 Honk honk!

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The word “irrespective” means saying or doing something without taking anything else into account. For example: “Irrespective of the fact that the cost of living has jumped, putting pressure on many people, the government ploughed on with Brexit and argued that there would be no real economic impact.”

So it is fitting that white man of the moment, Laurence Fox – who appeared on the BBC’s Question Time programme and told a BAME audience member that Meghan Markle has not been on the receiving end of racism before subsequently appearing on the cover of The Sunday Times to tell the world that he does not “date woke women” and then displaying an appalling understanding of history by calling the inclusion of a Sikh soldier in Sam Mendes’ film 1917 “incongruous” – has “irrespective” tattooed on his arm.

Did you hear that at the back, ladies? Laurence Fox – who you perhaps only knew as Billie Piper’s ex-husband because you’ve never seen Lewis(what?) – does not date “woke” women who he believes are being taught that they are “victims”, irrespective of whether they are right or not. He thinks that it’s “institutionally racist” to tell the story of the First World War in a racially diverse way, irrespective of the fact that Sikh soldiers absolutely fought for Britain. And he also doesn’t believe in white privilege, irrespective of the fact that he works in a painfully undiverse industry, was privately educated and comes from a wealthy acting family which is nothing short of a dynasty.


Laurence Fox defends his controversial comments

Fox is denying racism and sexism, irrespective of whether or not they exist. It’s nothing short of gaslighting. It’s all very Donald Trump.

Fox is denying racism and sexism, irrespective of whether or not they exist. It’s nothing short of gaslighting. It’s all very Donald Trump. And as you would expect, the whole debacle has lit a fire under anti-woke poster boy Piers Morgan while gaining Fox thousands of extra Twitter followers.
I could go over all the things he’s said; I could use data to prove how wrong he is; I could express concern for his mental health (after all, who really enjoys arguing on Twitter?); I could make jokes about his behaviour. But all of that would be to seriously miss the point.

There’s nothing funny about the things Fox – or Wokey McWokeface as he now wants to be known – is saying. It’s also not particularly sad. It’s dangerous. He is just one very privileged man, and as a result of said privilege, has been given a platform. And he has used that platform to legitimise a bigger backlash against diversity and progress which is unfolding every single day in less public corners of the internet.

Not wanting to date “woke” women, far from being laughable, is actually one of the more insidious aspects of it. Spend an afternoon on any major dating app and you’ll come across (generally white) men saying openly sexist and misogynistic things. They might say “no psychos” or that they “fucking hate big eyebrows” in their bios. And, by and large, they also tend to hold extremely right-wing views and see themselves as victims of liberal thinking.

In fact, as I was writing this, a dear friend sent me a screenshot of a guy she’s just matched with who describes Jordan B Peterson as his “dream dinner guest”. Yes, the same Jordan B Peterson who thinks that white privilege is a “Marxist lie” and wants millennials to drop their obsession with “social justice”.

I, meanwhile, recently had to block someone who after matching with me launched into a vile rant about how women are “evil”, “only want sex” and treat men as though they are “disposable”. When I asked him if he hated women he replied that he had “only moderate disdain” for us before asking me whether I didn’t want to date him because I’m actually “pretty rough”.

The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn’t stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online.

All of this, of course, speaks not only to the presence of the very active online communities of anti-feminist incels but to the prevalence of the hideous and incorrect ideas they promote. It doesn’t take magical thinking to see how men are radicalised by anti-feminism. As the saying goes: “When you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

To the person who wrote this article:


Now that the obligatory and deserved mockery is out of the way....

Throughout history, men and women have given up certain freedoms in exchange for certain responsibilities and privileges. Feminism came along and broke that social contract. While we could debate whether or not this is inherently negative, what is clearly negative is that feminism isn’t willing to give up privileges in exchange for lost responsibilities.

And perhaps even more importantly, they continue to try to enforce the social contract on men, and that’s exactly what this article is about: enforcing the social contract on men who see women opting out and want the same for themselves.

Also:
Woke women: "All men are disgusting"

Woke women: "It's not that bad to lie about rape. It was probably rape anyway, now let's destroy that guy's life over it."

Woke women: "If you have a better offer on the table, it's only fair for you to take 50% of your partner's life with you when you go."

Woke women: "How dare men be treated equally in custody cases! Women should be the priority."

Men start avoiding dating these people

Woke women: "Why won't men trust us enough to date us? We're perfectly reasonable. Surely this must be men's fault"

 

[MelancholicMechanicus]

HOW DARE YOU NOT WANT TO DATE A WOMAN WHOSE POLITICAL VIEWS SEE MEN AS EVIL AND WHO WANTS YOU TO BECOME A COMPLETELY SUBSERVIENT BEING TO THE CAUSE OF FEMINISM?!?!?!?!??!?!

 

[DarthOne]

HOW DARE YOU NOT WANT TO DATE A WOMAN WHOSE POLITICAL VIEWS SEE MEN AS EVIL AND WHO WANTS YOU TO BECOME A COMPLETELY SUBSERVIENT BEING TO THE CAUSE OF FEMINISM?!?!?!?!??!?!

Feminism: Teaching women that the consequences of their own actions are somebody else's fault since 1960's.

 

[Battlegrinder]

I think the most striking part was his comments about 1917 and then checking the actual history vs what the lady here said. Yes, Sikhs fought in WW1, but articles pointing that out to try and debunk him are oddly vague about exact numbers of soldiers at any given point in the war in any given location (older articles, like this one, are a bit more specific and mention that most of them were deployed to the middle east, not Europe)....because while his exact words were wrong, he kinda had a point in that running into a Sikh soldier in europe in 1917 was, while theoretically possible, incredibly unlikely (and as 1917 is entirely fictional, they can't even say "but this unlikely thing actually happened", someone decided to make it happen).

That's not to say that making said unlikely thing happen was nessarily bad, the popular image of WW1 is just a bunch of white dudes in trenches shooting at each for years on end and that's not accurate. That should be fixed. But you don't fix an inaccuracy by layering another inaccuracy atop of it and going "yeah, lots of non-white people fought for britian, it was totally plausible to just run into one by chance", because that's not true either. Saying "yes it's unlikely, but it's possible and helps highlight the role of these people that usually gets ignored" is a much better defense since it's actually true.



Or you can just lie and make stuff out for woke points to try and demonize some dude, knowing your aduence won't fact check you and not caring to appeal beyond that audience.

 

[ShieldWife]

If I were a Jew, I would avoid dating a Nazi who went around saying that Jews are the cause of all of the world’s problems and that it’s okay to kill Jews.

If I were a man, I would avoid dating an SJW feminist who went around saying that men are the cause of all the world’s problems and that it’s okay to lie (in so many words) about men raping her.

I could come up with lots of examples here. If somebody hates you, thinks you’re terrible, and wants to harm you - don’t date them!

If “woke” women want to date men, maybe they should stop being such completely hateful cunts.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

“Incels”

Yeah, they may not all totally avoid women altogether, but them disengaging from possible threats will still get them this title

 

[Cherico]

If I were a Jew, I would avoid dating a Nazi who went around saying that Jews are the cause of all of the world’s problems and that it’s okay to kill Jews.

If I were a man, I would avoid dating an SJW feminist who went around saying that men are the cause of all the world’s problems and that it’s okay to lie (in so many words) about men raping her.

I could come up with lots of examples here. If somebody hates you, thinks you’re terrible, and wants to harm you - don’t date them!

If “woke” women want to date men, maybe they should stop being such completely hateful cunts.

going to have to second your opinion as a jew.


A feminist whining about not being able to get a man gets the same reaction from me as a neo Nazi with a swastika carved into his head whining about not being able to meet a nice jewish girl.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

going to have to second your opinion as a jew.


A feminist whining about not being able to get a man gets the same reaction from me as a neo Nazi with a swastika carved into his head whining about not being able to meet a nice jewish girl.

One thing I have to bet is that if your Western Far Left takes over, they will actually be VERY Anti-Semetic whilst calling so many people NAZIs still

 

[Cherico]

One thing I have to bet is that if your Western Far Left takes over, they will actually be VERY Anti-Semetic whilst calling so many people NAZIs still

There have been two periods when I've been called a kike.

When I was sent to military school and had to deal with literal Nazi's and deal with nice things like attempted shanking in the showers. ( I got lucky and won that fight.)

And the black liberal who destroyed my chanuka decorations in my old neighborhood. (She was doing a hate crime hoax and got caught by the landlords security cameras in the RV park.) Her response to being caught red handed after trying to blame it on republicans was to call me a evil kike and tell me to go back in the oven.

If it seems like I have a chip on my shoulder conserning SJWs its because living around them is the quickest way to learn how to dispise them.

 

[almostinsane]

Date and marry traditional women. You can always find one if you're clear with what you want.

Otherwise, it's fine to be single and enjoy yourself. Men have the long end of the biological stick when it comes to dating and marrying later in life.

Unfortunately for them, feminists are learning this the hard way.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Date and marry traditional women. You can always find one if you're clear with what you want.

Otherwise, it's fine to be single and enjoy yourself. Men have the long end of the biological stick when it comes to dating and marrying later in life.

Unfortunately for them, feminists are learning this the hard way.

Uh

I don’t know about you but older men having relationships and sex with younger women feels creepy to me

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are even women in their thirties who are still fertile and have kids

One possible problem I think you guys will get is attempts to lower the population of say, white people, by imposing penalties for them havinh more kids

Because they consume more respurces and stuff

 

[almostinsane]

Uh

I don’t know about you but older men having relationships and sex with younger women feels creepy to me

That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are even women in their thirties who are still fertile and have kids

One possible problem I think you guys will get is attempts to lower the population of say, white people, by imposing penalties for them havinh more kids

Because they consume more respurces and stuff

I wouldn't advise dating someone with a huge gap between you, but many women are attracted to a man a decade older than them who has his life together.

I doubt there will be penalties for having multiple kids.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I wouldn't advise dating someone with a huge gap between you, but many women are attracted to a man a decade older than them who has his life together.

I doubt there will be penalties for having multiple kids.

Environmental penalties, more kids=bigger carbon footprint

Also, can’t trust white people to raise their kids right, gotta take em away

 

[almostinsane]

Environmental penalties, more kids=bigger carbon footprint

Also, can’t trust white people to raise their kids right, gotta take em away

You seem to believe that the Left has more power than they do. Trying to limit kids at this moment would cause too much blowback.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

You seem to believe that the Left has more power than they do. Trying to limit kids at this moment would cause too much blowback.

TBH, I think that the Western Left always doubles down and barely ever learns from their mistakes

Plus, like that one KGB guy once said, they can be shown the effects and actions of Socialist rule but will always deny or defend it

Marx left a legacy that will repeat by with the next generation or the generation after that, because they will romanticize something long gone or somewhere else

 

[LordsFire]

TBH, I think that the Western Left always doubles down and barely ever learns from their mistakes

Plus, like that one KGB guy once said, they can be shown the effects and actions of Socialist rule but will always deny or defend it

Marx left a legacy that will repeat by with the next generation or the generation after that, because they will romanticize something long gone or somewhere else

Authoritarianism is always tempting, because people who don't want to be responsible can use it as an excuse to shove that responsibility off onto others. Those others find it tempting, because with that responsibility comes power.

Marxism is the current flavor of it in some ways, but identitarianism, wealth redistribution, etc, etc, are far from new.

It comes and it goes. The only question is whether or not this generation will be vigilant enough to keep it from going out of control.

With the current trend in Britain and the USA, it looks like the answer is yes, we will be that vigilant for at least a little longer. A lot of the EU has decided not to be, and is going to have a least some form of cultural crash. The jury is still out on Canada and Australia. I don't know enough about NZ to say, and that more or less covers the 'western world.'

 

[Fleiur]

“Incels”

Yeah, they may not all totally avoid women altogether, but them disengaging from possible threats will still get them this title

I think the backlash comes from when you start generalising. Because if you think and believe that all are like that, it's where the problem comes from.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Authoritarianism is always tempting, because people who don't want to be responsible can use it as an excuse to shove that responsibility off onto others. Those others find it tempting, because with that responsibility comes power.

Marxism is the current flavor of it in some ways, but identitarianism, wealth redistribution, etc, etc, are far from new.

It comes and it goes. The only question is whether or not this generation will be vigilant enough to keep it from going out of control.

Honestly, one way I believe should help reduce Authoritarianism isn't just constantly making sure people think on things, you have to also find a way so that people don't necessarily have to depend on each other

Or specifically need to depend on certain quantities of people and things that will have lots of bureaucracy

Technology could maybe help, I think replacing schooling and colleges with what amount to How-To-Books that may include AI should help lessen dependency.

Though, I think there won't just be a need for guys with weaponry, an actual organized military would still be needed

I think the backlash comes from when you start generalising. Because if you think and believe that all are like that, it's where the problem comes from.

I think there's also generalizing others by saying they're the ones generalizing or generalizing a lot more than they really are

Just cause they avoid WOKE women or ones they get warning signs from, doesn't mean they can't or won't disengage entirely

the women who engage with them with no problem, however, maybe seen sorta badly by other women



Like the lady in this vid, who shared her experience from some Comic-Con.....thought she was a booth babe and saw her with contempt, found out she was an actual creator and wanted her to join em, saw they were feminists and said no they then viewed her with contempt

 

[LifeisTiresome]

What happened to nobody owes anyone sex or relationships?

Such hypocrites.

@CarlManvers2019

This is why I roll my eyes at people who hate MGTOW complaining about women. Women or feminists whatever create these articles or make posts on social networks and videos banging on and on about the evils of men endlessly.

They even do things were schools ban or stop boys from having lunch break cause male privilege of the past. And they oppose anything that will prevent paternity fraud. But MGTOW is the real problem cause reasons.

Also remember, feminists want to destroy anime and manga.

 

[Fleiur]

I think there's also generalizing others by saying they're the ones generalizing or generalizing a lot more than they really are

Just cause they avoid WOKE women or ones they get warning signs from, doesn't mean they can't or won't disengage entirely

the women who engage with them with no problem, however, maybe seen sorta badly by other women



Like the lady in this vid, who shared her experience from some Comic-Con.....thought she was a booth babe and saw her with contempt, found out she was an actual creator and wanted her to join em, saw they were feminists and said no they then viewed her with contempt

When Incels mean you're staying virgin until you're married and/or will not take sex casually I believe that is a good thing.

Yeah. You can disengage. Of course if you have standards and you're clear with what you want and you know your values, you can disengage.